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- From: 6500amd@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Amitav Das)
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- Subject: parameters to investigate in selecting a stock (LONG)
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- Date: 20 Jan 93 21:38:49 GMT
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- To All the Guru's/semi-Guru's (Guru == expert) of the net.misc.invest-land:
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- I am not sure whether there was such a question before, but I would like to hear
- from you what "parameter"s you compute/watch/investigate/wink at when you look
- at a stock for buying? I am putting down what I have been using in my relatively
- inexperienced effort over last six months and I want to enrich my knowledge with
- your inputs. Perhaps we can put it in the FAQ. Here are my parameters:
-
- Please add your own or comment on these and their merits/usefulness:
-
- =======================================================================================
-
- 1. HEALTH OF THE COMPANY & MANAGEMENT:
- a. Financial strength rating as given by Value line (should be > than B+)
- b. Debt/Asset ratio (need more input in this area, how do you seperate new
- companies vs. giant old ones, how do you rate differently?)
- c. Growth rate(EPS) for last 5 years: Is it all UP UP UP UP UP? If not some
- reasonable explanation
- d. Growth of sales & Book value: same as above
-
- e. Any other indicators?
-
- 2. CURRENT PRICE
-
- a. current PE (preferred to be less than 20, unless it has tremendous growth potential)
- b. Relative value (cur PE/ Avg PE over last 5 years) : shd. be less than 1 which
- indicates that the stock is underpriced. If greater than one. look
- at the avg. relative value in the past 5 years see whether it was
- similar all the time(a favorite stock always boughta bit overpriced?)
- c. Compute Estimated High Price (HI) and estimated low price (LO): you can get it
- from value line or get then my mutiplying the avg hi/lo PE and
- projected EPS at 5 years from now.
- d. Spread(SP) = HI - LO;
- e. Buy range is bet. LO and LO+SP/3: (Cur Price should be in the middle of this)
- f. Sell range is HI-SP/3 to HI
- g. Price/Book Value (P/B) ratio: should be less than or around 3 (depends on sector
- and should be compared with other similar stocks)
- (need input on this too)
-
- h. Short position on the stock if any? (need info how to analyze this data: high
- short interest or short interest ratio -- how does it affect the price? Simple
- thinking tells that a high short interest(no of shares people has to purchase to
- cover their short position) and low short interest ratio(avg no of days one need
- to cover the above as estimated from the trading volume) should indicate a price
- increase in the future (people soon have to buy these shares). Am I correct?
-
- i. Upside/Downside ratio (U/D): U/D = (HI - Cur price)/(Cur price - LO) indicates
- the risk/reward poetential of this stock, should be greater than 3 (so that
- you get better sleep at night) Any input on this?
-
- j. PE/growth rate projected: For example if PE is 20 and projected growth rate is 20
- and current price is 40 then EPS is 2 and in 5 years it should be 4 and the price
- should be 80 and you would get your money back (doubled) (assuming everything goes
- properly and relative value wasless than 1). Does it make sense? What should be
- this ratio?
-
- k. Any other indicators?
-
- 3. GROWTH POTENTIAL
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- a. Yield(Y): % of dividend as to cur price.
- b. Growth rate of dividend over last 5 years.
-
- (note a & b are important if you are selecting it for "income" purpose, however
- it does not hurt to get dividend from growth stocks, does it?)
-
- c. Hi return (HIR): HIR = 100*(HI - Cur)/Cur + Y (should be very temptingly high!!!)
- d. LO return (LIR): LIR = 100*(Cur-LO)/Cur + Y (should not be too negetive)
- e. Avg return(R) : R = Avg. growth rate (over last 5 years) + Y
-
- this should be more than 15 since I plan to at least double my money in
- 5 years.
-
- any comments on above?
-
- f. Any other indicators?
-
- 4. MISC FACTORS. So far all we have seen are only numbers and statistics. This is the
- "heard in the street" or "I know since I work in the same industry" etc part. Its
- hard to quantify any of these and I am just begining to get some sense out of my
- observation of the market over last 6 months. Here are my (vague) factors:
-
- a. It seems to me if some analyst put it on their buy list or specially if they remove
- it there is small or big jump (Market sentiment?), how can you perceive that in
- advance? Should we ignore these (temorary?) fluctuations?
-
- b. Market shares of the company (can be obtained from them/their quarterly reports)
-
- ... any other sources?
-
- c. Net profit margin (can get it from value line) but how to digest this data, specially
- how can you read it? Do you compare with similar industries? Need input (I sound
- like the robot in "Short Circuit" if you have seen the movie!)
-
- d. Bylines from newsletter/magazines praising/hating it (But Peter Lynch advises to
- discover it before THEY do!).
-
- e. Sensing Cyclical stock before they climb up (How?)
-
- f. Buying before the release of their earning report is released and getting some
- prediction from analysts/company (I wish I could have done it for Intel!)?
-
- g. WSJ runs some nice articles about companies, their new/future products sometime
- on a particular product(group) and what company has what market share.
-
- h. Read economic indicators:
- short term / long term interest rate: How does it affect the stock?
- strength of dollar : how does it affect the stock?
- M1,M2 etc : how does it affect the market in general
-
- i. Anything else that you look at:
-
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-
- I am definitely expecting comments from Art Kamlet, Larry Watanabe and other experts
- but everyone please send your opinions regarding this. I'll post a summary if there
- is enough and significant replies.
-
- Please email to das%kane@ece.ucsb or post
-
- Thanks in advance.
-
- .... Amitav Das.
- ECE Dept. UCSB.
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-