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- From: harry@hershele.alf.dec.com (Harry Katz)
- Subject: Re: STATUE OF IMMIGRATION
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.212724.23821@netnews.alf.dec.com>
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:27:24 GMT
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- In article <C0IKz3.3G9@ddsw1.mcs.com>,
- arf@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Jack Schmidling) wrote:
-
- The Statue of Liberty was given to Americans by the French
- government in 1886 as a token of friendship between the two
- countries. The statue was to symbolize America's hard won
- freedom and liberty.
-
- However, as a result of a propaganda campaign by immigrant
- lobbyists, most Americans have come to think that the statue
- represents some sort of inalienable committment to an "open
- door", immigration policy.
-
- The truth is that in 1926, Emma Lazarus successfully lobbied
- to get her now famous lines added to the statue. The result
- is that everytime the idea of limiting immigration is
- brought up, these lines are quoted and the subject dropped
- as just plain un-American.
-
-
- In article <1993Jan15.170530.2758@netnews.alf.dec.com>,
- harry@hershele.alf.dec.com (Harry Katz) responded:
-
- The truth is that Emma Lazarus was born in 1849 and died
- in 1887. Apparently, Mr. Schmidling believes that she rose
- from the grave in 1926 to lobby "to get her now famous lines
- added to the statue."
-
- Clearly, the only propaganda campaign here is being waged
- by Mr. Schmidling, who always insists on displaying his
- ignorance in public.
-
-
- In article <C117q3.E3@ddsw1.mcs.com>,
- arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) makes some pitiful attempts
- at damage control:
-
- Thanks for pointing the typo.
-
- What Mr. Schmidling dismisses as a typo is actually a reckless
- disregard for facts that inevitably leads to erroneous conclusions.
- I do not waste my time with typos, especially Mr. Schmidling's, whose
- errors in spelling, punctuation, grammar, syntax, and usage are too
- numerous to catalogue.
-
-
- Mr. Schmidling continues:
-
- You need not look for an evil conspiracy.
-
- Once again Mr. Schmidling displays his renowned confusion. He was the
- one who suggested an evil conspiracy was afoot, not me.
-
-
- Mr. Schmidling continues:
-
- The correct date for the dedication of the statue was 1886.
-
- This fact is indeed correct, as it was in his original article, so
- this cannot be the "typo" that Mr. Schmidling refers to. Perhaps he
- means that it was in 1886 and not 1926 that "Emma Lazarus successfully
- lobbied to get her now famous lines added to the statue." The rest of
- his comments shed no more light on what he means, but before we take a
- look at them, let us once again correct Mr. Schmidling:
-
- Emma Lazarus wrote her poem, _The_New_Colossus, about the Statue of
- Liberty shortly after its dedication in 1886. She passed away the next
- year. Her poem was inscribed on a bronze plaque at the base of the
- statue in 1903--not in 1926, as Mr. Schmidling first claimed, nor in
- 1886, as Mr. Schmidling later implies.
-
- What this proves is that Mr. Schmidling cannot get anything right even
- when given a second chance!
-
-
- Mr. Schmidling continues:
-
- And according to the Britanica.... "she devoted the
- short remainder of her life to the cause of Jewish nationalism"....
-
- The fact that Emma Lazarus devoted the last year of her life to
- "Jewish nationalism" has nothing to do with the fact that her poem
- was added to the Statue of Liberty sixteen years after her death, when
- she could not have lobbied anybody for anything.
-
-
- Mr. Schmidling continues:
-
- You insist on bringing Jew into the discussion again and then
- call me an antisemite.
-
- Once again Mr. Schmidling's legendary mental confusion has gotten the
- better of him. If he could only understand what he reads, then he
- would see that I have never called him an anti-Semite and that he
- himself is the only one here who insists "on bringing Jew into the
- discussion" in a transparent attempt to change the subject and draw
- attention away from his own appalling ignorance.
-
-
- Mr. Schmidling continues:
-
- She turned the the Statue of Liberty into the Statue of
- immigration and there is litle dobut just which immigrants she
- was most interested in.
-
- There can be no doubt whatsoever that Emma Lazarus was most interested
- in those immigrants who helped build America into the world's leading
- industrial nation.
-
- There is also no doubt that Mr. Schmidling is more interested in
- promoting his prejudices than arriving at the truth!
-
-
- Harry Katz
-
-