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- From: stank@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Stan Krieger)
- Subject: Class rankings, etc (was: Branding kids, IQ tests, smart vs dumb (Was: Re: Seminar Program)
- Organization: Summit NJ
- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:14:57 GMT
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- In an area to branding children as smart, dumb, etc., my pet peeve is
- with the class ranking system used in high school; especially in my
- district. When I explained this system (details to follow) to a cousin
- who is an elementary school teacher in an urban district, her first
- question was "Does the curriculum include a stress reduction course?"
-
- Anyway to begin, grading is from "F" to "A+", where F is 0 and A+
- is 4.5 (A is 4, etc). But, to "encourage" students to take courses
- to their ability, courses are assigned a weight of from 1 to 5, where
- AP courses are "5", and "standard" courses are 3. Now, to get the
- actual grade, for Grade Point Average and for class standing, the
- grade is multiplied by the course weight and divided by 3.
-
- Now, when I was in high school in the early 60's, we never got a "premium"
- for being in an advanced class. It would show on our transcript that
- we took an advanced class, and our grades were skewed upwards so that
- we weren't penalized for taking a harder course, but we didn't get
- a statutory adder or statutory multiplier. As an extreme case under
- the current system, after the fact, I told my daughter that she should've
- taken "yearbook" as a pass/fail course instead of as a letter grade. Sure,
- she got an "A" in the course, but it was a one weight, thus the "A"
- was equivalent to a D+ for GPA, and thus class standing, computation.
-
- Of course, just to make sure that the students don't have enough to
- worry about, there are 7 instructional periods each day, but to graduate
- all that is needed is to take physical education (i.e., "gym") and
- 5 other courses (including the required stuff, like 4 years of
- English, 2 years of American History, 1 year of World Cultures, and
- others things that I forgot about), meaning that one period a day can
- be in "study hall". But, to discourage study halls, a flat 2 points
- (that is, effectively raising a "C" to an "A" in one 3 weight course)
- will be added to the total for any student taking 7 courses instead
- of just the minimum 6.
-
- Despite the fact that this forces marginal students in way over their
- heads just to try to stay even, here are a few more inequities and
- stupidities that this system has-
-
- 1. First year of a foreign language is a 2 weight, 2nd and 3rd years
- are 3 weights, 4th year is a 4, and "5th" year (a college level
- course) is a 5 weight. Our Junior High, over the 7th and
- 8th grades, teaches the equivalent of 1 year of a foreign
- language; thus most 9th graders start high school taking the
- 2nd year of a language. Of course, suppose the child who took
- French in Junior High wants to switch to Spanish. This means
- losing ground because the grade in Spanish I is worth only
- 67% of what a grade in French II is worth. (An additional
- argument against this is that, while its intent is to get
- encourage students to continue with a foreign language,
- is French IV any harder than French III? I'm sure the
- incremental amount of knowledge over the previous year is
- the same, so why should the grade in one be worth 33% more
- than the grade in the other?
-
- 2. To make sure that the child prodigies get enough of a jump
- on the rest of the world, roughly the top 10% 6th grade math
- students will be put into an accelerated program in Junior
- High, with the result being that they'll finish the equivalent
- of Algebra I in the 8th grade. Of course, because this means
- that their 12th grade math course is a 5 weight (college calculus);
- their grades in the 4 years of math they take are worth
- more than the grades of the other 90% of the students. I mean,
- isn't it enough that their transcripts show the higher level
- math courses? Do they also need bonus points on their GPA?
-
- 3. I've heard stories of the very intelligent students trying to
- get permanent medical gym excuses just so they could take yet
- another 4 or 5 weight subject to boost their GPA.
-
- Any comments, or any other equally disasterous high school ranking systems?
- --
- Stan Krieger All opinions, advice, or suggestions, even
- UNIX System Laboratories if related to my employment, are my own.
- Summit, NJ
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