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- From: elg@elgamy.jpunix.com (Eric Lee Green)
- Message-ID: <00727750886@elgamy.jpunix.com>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 19:01:26 CDT
- Newsgroups: misc.education
- Subject: Re: Magnet schools
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- Organization: Eric's Amiga 2000 @ Home
- References: <C15z8v.LpJ@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <1j2craINNofh@mojo.eng.umd.edu> <1993Jan14.150343.21477@wam.umd.edu> <00727327078@elgamy.jpunix.com>
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- From article <C15z8v.LpJ@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, by hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin):
- > In article <00727327078@elgamy.jpunix.com> elg@elgamy.jpunix.com (Eric Lee Green) writes:
- >>There you go. How to get basic performance out of these kids, based upon
- >>first-hand experience.
- >
- >>Now, producing Rhodes Scholars out of them... that's another question
- >>altogether. But I assumed that we were just talking about how to teach them
- >>the basic skills needed to succeed in this society -- something that the
- >>schools currently aren't doing.
- >
- > Why not producing Rhodes Scholars? The tenements of the first part of this
- > century, and the current Asian refugees may not produce Rhodes Scholars, but
- > they did not seem to have much of a problem in producing scholars.
-
- First of all: the current Asian refugees hitting Houston are primarily
- uneducated peasants, and their children are doing about as well in the
- Houston public schools as the great-great-grandchildren of ex-slaves and
- the children of ex-Mexicans. I.e., not too well. The myth of the
- super-achiever Asian children is just that, a myth. It holds true with
- Asian children whose parents were originally of middle-class merchant
- background, but not true of Asians from peasant backgrounds.
-
- I would like to produce Rhodes Scholars as much as anybody. However, when I
- see 6th graders who cannot read, I prefer to think that perhaps we'd be
- better first getting those 6th graders reading at the 6th grade level, and
- only THEN start thinking about producing Rhodes Scholars.
-
- Besides, we really don't know how to produce Rhodes Scholars. The basic
- techniques for producing adequately-educated people are well know, but
- nobody really knows how to teach creativity or flexibility or how to be an
- effective thinker.
-
- Still, we know how to give ghetto kids an acceptable education despite
- their supposed "handicap". We ought to do it.
-
- --
- Eric Lee Green elg@elgamy.jpunix.com Dodson Elementary
- (713) 664-6446 Houston, TX
- "Kids are kids, no matter what"
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