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- From: petel@sequent.com (Pete Lancashire)
- Subject: Re: Branding kids, IQ tests, smart vs dumb (Was: Re: Seminar Program)
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- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:57:14 GMT
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- clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin) writes:
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- > I wonder if people have done studies about how kids in non-accelerated
- >classes are taught. Do teachers decide it's not worth pushing them?
- >Do they put down the students (you would think this wouldn't happen)?
-
- Yes there have been, I don't have them so I can't say how 'real' they
- are. but one is where a teacher was to that (and which) kids in his or
- her class were LD, and another where certain kids were trouble makers,
- to the suprise of the teacher [s]he was treating the 'test' cases
- differently. I have also seen on TV where a teacher was observed how
- mnay times she answered (raised hands from questions) boy vs girl.
- She was very suprised with the results, and this was a teacher who
- in her words tried to be fair.
-
- I don't remember if there was any conclusions.
-
- >Is the attitude better toward so-called gifted children? We have
- >many teachers across the US, some (like Mr. Green) who have found solutions
- >to "problem" students and are able to deal with these students, in what
- >seems to be a productive manner.
-
- Erik [Mr. Green] time to write a book on your experiences and methods :-) ?
-
- >Yet, is this information readily
- >available to other people? I don't know exactly what an education
- >degree provides, but it would be nice to have some of the ideas of
- >education delivered to others teachers, and perhaps even to parents.
-
- From what I have been able to collect mostly about human (child)
- ethology and child psy, a LOT has come out in just the last five or
- so years. I have a theory but it may seem sexist. I think one factor
- is that in the last ten years the percentage of women entering the
- behavior and psy fields has shot up. A little of track but.....
-
- > It should be that all parents (if they can) should try to nurture
- >their children's talents, even when these are not readily apparent, but
- >what may be needed is some sort of guide to this process from others
- >who have been successful in motivation.
-
- I don't think 'can' is is the word. Example, I feel very strongly that
- if the (kid I was with this summer) mothers would have just given up
- some of her 'quality time' and sat with her son, even if she just read
- a paper back or something, the kid would have done (better on) his
- homework. She did not need to know the subject. The kid would have least
- felt that someone esle was willing to 'suffer'. Just an idea.
-
- -pete
- Pete Lancashire
- petel@sequent.com
-