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  3. Path: sparky!uunet!boulder!ucsu!ucsu.Colorado.EDU!fcrary
  4. From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
  5. Subject: Re: Illegal telephone recording
  6. Message-ID: <1993Jan21.233733.16228@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
  7. Sender: news@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (USENET News System)
  8. Nntp-Posting-Host: ucsu.colorado.edu
  9. Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
  10. References: <1993Jan20.172624.9115@netwise.com> <1993Jan20.230522.21003@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> <JASON.93Jan21101055@jazz.cnd.hp.com>
  11. Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:37:33 GMT
  12. Lines: 34
  13.  
  14. In article <JASON.93Jan21101055@jazz.cnd.hp.com> jason@jazz.cnd.hp.com (Jason Zions) writes:
  15. >   This isn't really the case: The entire idea of entrapment, is the
  16. >   police tricking someone into self-incrimination before they
  17. >   arrest him.
  18.  
  19. >Bzzzzt! Nice try, though.
  20. >Entrapment occurs when law enforcement officials commit some illegal act
  21. >(e.g. making drugs available) without court order to assist them in getting
  22. >the victim of entrapment to commit an illegal act.
  23.  
  24. If the police encourage someone to commit a crime in any way, it's
  25. legally entrapment. It's prefectly legal to say, "Would you like
  26. to buy some cocaine?", but the police can't say this, and then
  27. arrest someone for buying from them. (Actually, they can but
  28. _only_ if there is also evidence of the accused commonly being
  29. offered and buying drugs; if their only evidence is an act
  30. which the police, themselves, suggested, that's entrapment.)
  31.  
  32. >...Self-incrimination has
  33. >nothing to do with this;
  34.  
  35. Is that why court cases on the subject refer to Fifth Amendment
  36. rights?
  37.  
  38. >Example: Mailing someone a solicitation to purchase child pornography may
  39. >not be legal if samples are included or if the mailings continue to the
  40. >point of being legally classifiable as harrassment.
  41.  
  42. Mailings like this are illegal entrapment, even if the offer is
  43. legally mailed, unless the police can show the accused regularly
  44. receives such offers. 
  45.  
  46.                                               Frank Crary
  47.                                               CU Boulder
  48.