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- From: matt@centerline.com (Matt Landau)
- Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,alt.toolkits.xview,comp.windows.news
- Subject: Re: SunSoft's OpenWindows Directions
- Message-ID: <1k6eitINN564@armory.centerline.com>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 16:51:41 GMT
- References: <lmb9ggINNobc@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
- Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
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- In <lmb9ggINNobc@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> pierre@stendhal.Eng.Sun.COM (Pierre Bedard (SunSoft Windows Marketing)) writes:
-
- >Q. What about XView?
-
- >A. SunSoft recognizes that many of our customers use the
- >XView toolkit. You do not need to port applications from
- >XView to OLIT. You can maintain your present applications
- >on XView until you feel comfortable moving to an object
- >environment or you need functionality not available on
- >XView.
-
- This sounds a lot like SunSoft is setting the stage to *drop* XView
- entirely. The phrases "maintain your present applications" and "need
- functionality not available on XView" conspicuously avoids any mention
- of new application development using XView, or of ongoing development
- work on the XView toolkit itself.
-
- Can we have *clear* statement of direction from SunSoft on the future
- of XView? Will SunSoft continue development of XView, adding features
- and fixing bugs in new releases? Or is work on XView being suspended,
- with an eye toward EOL'ing the product in favor of OLIT? Forgive my
- bluntness here, but at least in the window systems arena, SunSoft has
- an unfortunate history of quietly hinting that products are going away
- without ever coming right out and saying it.
-
- >Q. How long will X11/NeWS and TNT be supported?
-
- >A. Support for X11/NeWS and TNT will continue to be
- >available. Source code for the latest release of
- >OpenWindows will also be available at a reasonable price.
-
- You didn't answer your own question. *HOW LONG* (your question, not
- mine) will support continue to be available? I don't actually care,
- not being a tnt or NeWS programmer, but if you're going to pose the
- question in a public new posting, you should at least answer the same
- question you posed :-)
-
- >Q. Is product quality that much better?
-
- >A. We believe OWV3 is a high-quality product. By moving
- >to an MIT source base we will be able to deliver an even
- >higher quality product. MIT has issued many public
- >patches since the release of R5, containing over 1,300
- >bug fixes. Patches are issued every few weeks.
-
- The frequency of MIT patch releases seems irrelevant unless SunSoft
- is planning to provide corresponding patch releases of OpenWindows
- version 3.X every few weeks or months, instead of once a year or so.
- Judging from the speed with which other vendors who have MIT-based
- servers update their product releases, this seems fairly unlikely.
-
- In other words, the fact that MIT provides patches every few weeks
- doesn't do me any good as a user of SunSoft's next OpenWindows system
- unless I have the source. Is SunSoft planning to distribute the
- source?
-
- Don't get me wrong, I think that, politics of the Workstation Wars
- being what they are, SunSoft might be doing the right thing for its
- business here (although I'll surely regret the loss of the last truly
- innovative window system technology outside of NeXT). But the way
- it's presented here makes it sound like something it isn't.
- --
- Matt Landau Waiting for a flash of enlightenment
- matt@centerline.com in all this blood and thunder
-
- Needless to say, these opinions are my own. CenterLine probably
- wouldn't be caught dead agreeing with anything I say :-)
-