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- Path: sparky!uunet!tis.com!mjr
- From: mjr@tis.com (Marcus J Ranum)
- Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
- Subject: Re: Recommendations for high disk throughput
- Date: 28 Jan 1993 20:11:37 GMT
- Organization: Trusted Information Systems, Inc.
- Lines: 46
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- References: <1993Jan27.205507.13234@grc.genroco.com> <C1JA9I.50x@news.iastate.edu> <1993Jan28.151736.29972@grc.genroco.com>
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- joe@grc.genroco.com (Joe Nordman) writes:
-
- >People should also know that the paper which claims IPI to be the wrong
- >choice was written by a company that makes it's money from SCSI.
-
- Don't apologise.
-
- They cheated. The comparison is between a "typical" Auspex
- NS5000 with 10 concurrent SCSI-1 channels versus a SPARCserver
- with 1-4 IPI controllers. The picture gets clearer when statements
- like:
- "The Sun ISP-80 controllers handle a 10Mb/S channel transfer
- rate and are optimized (with controller buffering) for sequential
- read-ahead. Despite this sequential transfer advantage, section 4.3
- discusses empirical testing that confirms that the limited drive
- concurrency of this style of IPI subsystem greatly restricts NFS
- (random access) throughput."
-
- I particularly get a chuckle out of the line: "Compared to
- SCSI, the IPI interface is an unintelligent interface." Now, they're
- talking about *their* SCSI interfaces, which are a slick piece of
- work - they aren't talking about the lame SCSI you get with your
- workstation. They also declined to publish the results of testing
- an IPI subsystem with a write cache. :) And they used one controller.
- Benchmarking this against a RAID 0 array.
-
- So, we got this Auspex server with 2 CPUs, *8* *ETHERNETS*
- and a RAID 0 array and - well - yeah it kicks ass. You are surprised?
-
- The paper is bogus and I'm surprised it got past the program
- committee. The title is:
- "How and why SCSI is better than IPI for NFS"
- and then they proceed to argue that it's better because,
- well, it's cheaper and nothing does particularly well given NFS'
- weird load characteristics.
- and *THEN* they conclude:
- "The result is that SCSI disk arrays easily outperformed a
- contemporary, optimized IPI drive subsystem on NFS workloads."
- Hangon.
- The paper title should have read:
- "Disk arrays proven fast"
- Rocket science.
-
- mjr.
- --
- "guns don't die. people do."
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