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- From: fingerhu@ircam.fr (Michel Fingerhut)
- Subject: DECcampus
- Message-ID: <1993Jan21.105107.12547@ircam.fr>
- Organization: Inst. de Recherche et Coordination Acoustique/Musique, Paris
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 10:51:07 GMT
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- Has anyone had any experience with this offer of DEC? We were told the details
- yesterday, and they appear to us much less attractive than from far away:
-
- 1. Few Ultrix packages of "interesting" software, (eg no DECwrite which
- requires a licence extension) [their argument: no software which requires
- DEC to pay royalties is included, and there is more of them for ultrix/risc]
-
- 2. very high distribution costs (over $3,000/year - we currently pay $300 for
- our ultrix distrib) [their argument: it's lots of CDs]
-
- 3. not clear which ALPHA/OSF1 software is, or will be, included, and at which
- cost, so even though Alpha is officially released this march, one has to take
- a one-year DECcampus licence without knowing what it would provide for
- Alpha [their argument: larger sites don't know either and they took it]
-
- 4. Very high 1st-time "migration cost" for low performance machines ($128,300
- for a DEC 5820, while it costs $452 for an Alpha! Go figure). [their
- argument: way back then, the DEC 5820 was very expensive]
-
- In essence it appears to be cost-effective for large VAX/VMS sites, but not for
- small (a dozen workstations) Ultrix ones. In other words, while there is
- a discount policy for the former, there is not an adequate one for the latter.
-