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         they already knew all of the answers.
        5.*) Questions pertaining to the various shells, and the differences.
        6.*) An overview of Unix variants.
+       7.*) An comparison of configuration management systems (RCS, SCCS).

  The following questions are answered:

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        has already been redirected so only stderr actually winds up in
        stderr_file.

!       Sometimes it's easier to let sh do the work for you.

!     sh -c 'command >stdout_file 2>stderr_file'

  2.10) How do I tell inside .cshrc if I'm a login shell?

        When people ask this, they usually mean either

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        has already been redirected so only stderr actually winds up in
        stderr_file.

!       If what you want is to avoid redirecting stdout at all, let sh
!       do it for you.

!     sh -c 'command 2>stderr_file'

  2.10) How do I tell inside .cshrc if I'm a login shell?
+
+       From: [e-mail] (Mark Brader)
+       Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1992 20:15:00 -0500

        When people ask this, they usually mean either

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  4.9)  How do I keep track of people who are fingering me?

+       From: [e-mail] (Jonathan I. Kamens)
+       From: [e-mail] (Nikola Malenovic)
+       Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:01:45 -0600
+
        Generally, you can't find out the userid of someone who is
        fingering you from a remote machine.  You may be able to
        find out which machine the remote request is coming from.
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        For more information join the rfc931-users mailing list,
        [e-mail].

!       There are two caveats relating to this answer.  The first is that
!       many NFS systems won't allow the recognize the named pipe
!       correctly.  This means that trying to read the pipe on another
!       machine will either block until it times out, or see it as a
!       zero-length file, and never print it.

        The second problem is that on many systems, fingerd checks that
        the .plan file contains data (and is readable) before trying to
!       read it.  This will not cause remote fingers to miss your .plan
!       file entirely.

  4.10) Is it possible to reconnect a process to a terminal after it has
        been disconnected, e.g. after starting a program in the background
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        For more information join the rfc931-users mailing list,
        [e-mail].

!       There are three caveats relating to this answer.  The first is
!       that many NFS systems won't recognize the named pipe correctly.
!       This means that trying to read the pipe on another machine will
!       either block until it times out, or see it as a zero-length file,
!       and never print it.

        The second problem is that on many systems, fingerd checks that
        the .plan file contains data (and is readable) before trying to
!       read it.  This will cause remote fingers to miss your .plan file
!       entirely.
!
!       The third problem is that a system that supports named pipes
!       usually has a fixed number of named pipes available on the
!       system at any given time - check the kernel config file and
!       FIFOCNT option.  If the number of pipes on the system exceeds the
!       FIFOCNT value, the system blocks new pipes until somebody frees
!       the resources.  The reason for this is that buffers are allocated
!       in a non-paged memory.

  4.10) Is it possible to reconnect a process to a terminal after it has
        been disconnected, e.g. after starting a program in the background
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        Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 14:28:18 -0500

        All of the major shells other than sh have aliases, but they
!       don't all work the same way.  For example, some don't except
        arguments.

        Although not strictly equivalent, shell functions (which exist in
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        All of the major shells other than sh have aliases, but they
!       don't all work the same way.  For example, some don't accept
        arguments.

        Although not strictly equivalent, shell functions (which exist in
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  5.5)  How can I tell if I am running an interactive shell?

        From: [e-mail] (Matthew Wicks)
!       Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 14:28:18 -0500

!       In the Bourne shell category look for the variable $PROMPT.  In
!       the C shell category, look for the variable $prompt.

  5.6)  What "dot" files do the various shells use?

        From: [e-mail] (Matthew Wicks)
!       Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 14:28:18 -0500

        Although this may not be a complete listing, this provides the
        majority of information.
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  5.5)  How can I tell if I am running an interactive shell?

        From: [e-mail] (Matthew Wicks)
!       From: [e-mail] (DaviD W. Sanderson)
!       Date: Fri, 23 Oct 92 11:59:19 -0600

!       In the C shell category, look for the variable $prompt.

+       In the Bourne shell category, you can look for the variable $PS1,
+       however, it is better to check the variable $-.  If $- contains
+       an 'i', the shell is interactive.  Test like so:
+
+       case $- in
+       *i*)    # do things for interactive shell
+               ;;
+       *)      # do things for non-interactive shell
+               ;;
+       esac
+
  5.6)  What "dot" files do the various shells use?

        From: [e-mail] (Matthew Wicks)
!       From: [e-mail] (Thomas M. Breuel)
!       Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 03:30:36 +0100

        Although this may not be a complete listing, this provides the
        majority of information.
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        Start-up (in this order):
                /etc/profile  - login shells.
                .bash_profile - login shells.
!               .bashrc       - interactive shells.

        Others:
                .inputrc      - Readline initialization.
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        Start-up (in this order):
                /etc/profile  - login shells.
                .bash_profile - login shells.
!               .profile      - login if no .bash_profile is present.
!               .bashrc       - interactive non-login shells.
!               $ENV          - always, if it is set.
!
!       Upon termination:
!               .bash_logout  - login shells.

        Others:
                .inputrc      - Readline initialization.
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