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- From: bownes@peterpan.crd.ge.com (Keptin Komrade Dr. Bobwrench III)
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- Subject: Re: CPU's used in early Tandy's
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- Date: 27 Jan 93 21:27:33 GMT
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- More than you Ever wanted to know about Model II/12/16/6000's.
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- From article <C1Howz.nK@acsu.buffalo.edu>, by kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist):
- > The TRS-80 I used the Z80 at ~1 Mhz, TRS-80 III used the Z80, but the 2.77
- > Mhz model, and the TRS-80 Model IV use the 4 Mhz Z80A. What did the TRS-80
- > Model II, 16, and 6000 use? Also, what was the original purpose of those
- > three machines? (The Models I,III, and IV were mainly for home use. Were
- > the Models II, 16, 6000 meant for business use, running networks, or what?)
- > Thanks in advance for any help.
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- The model III was not exactly 2Mhz because of the video if I recall correctly.
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- The model II,12,16, and 6000 used a 4Mhz Z80, with the 16 and 6000 having
- a 68000 as well. Xenix used the z80 as an io processor. In 1983.
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- The model II (introduced about 1978) was aimed at the buisiness market.
- The model 16 (1982), answered the demand for faster COBOL machine, and with
- XENIX, andwered the demand for multi-user computing in a small office.
- By the time things worked up to the model 6000, (and in fact, the mmu
- upgraded 6000) 8 users could be supported, 2-4Mb of main memory, and 280Mb
- of disk.
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- The only difference between the model 16 and the model II was the
- addition of the 68000, its associated memory, and two half height 8"
- disks, which replaced the 1 8" disk in the model II. The case colour and
- keyboard colour changed as well. There were some internal part #
- changes over the years, but otherwise, the two use all the
- same parts.
-
- As the Model II started to get dated (badly) and folks wanted
- the twin drives of the model 16, but not the 68K, AND Tandy realized
- it could save money by reducing the 5 boards (CPU, memory, Floppy contrlr,
- video, backplane) in a model II to two, eliminating the backplane
- (CPU w mem & FDC, and same old video card) they did it, creating
- the model 12. The upgrade path was then to put in a backplane, cardcage,
- and 68K CPU to turn it into a model 16B. The z80CPU was unchanged
- from II->12->16->6000, being 4Mhz all along. In fact the CPU for the
- 12,16B,6000 is the same part #, and schematically, it resembles the pages
- for a model II CPU, FDC, and memory all glued together. Not exactly
- mind you, but really close. All the 68K based systems used the z80 as an
- I/O processor.
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- There were 4 68K based CPUs which could be used to upgrade a II/12 to
- 68000 system (16/16B/6000), the original (long board) wich came in the 16,
- the first generation short board (still 6Mhz), which came in the late 16's,
- and all the 16B's, the fast short board (8Mhz) which appeared in the
- 6000, and the MMU CPU, which was 8Mhz, and supported > 1Meg of 68Kram.
-
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- There were 2 68K memory boards, one for 64K drams, one for 256K's which came
- out with the 6000.
- The first OS for the 16 was TRSDOS16, which was trsdos II with support for
- double sided floppies and a loader for 68000 programs. There was a COBOL
- OS for running a bunch of COBOL apps, and XENIX, which started with XENIX 1.0,
- a UNIX v.7 variant, which migrated to XENIX 3.x, a System III derivitive.
-
- You may sometimes hear about legendary 'Mux Box Systems', with some
- reverence...Tandy had a multiplexor (you don't want to know any more)
- which shared the same backplane design with the model II/12/16/6000, but
- rather than 8 slots was 16 slots, and included a number of 4 port
- serial cards. Some folks inside and outside of Tandy realized that
- they could build systems using these pieces, allowing more expansion
- than previously (we were running out of slots) allowed. I know of
- about half a dozen of these kicking around the country.
- --
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