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- From: tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
- Subject: Re: Why the Piracy? Here's why...
- Date: 21 Jan 93 10:24:28 GMT
- Organization: Australian National University
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- jason@ab20.larc.nasa.gov (Jason Austin) writes:
-
- >In article <1993Jan20.141942.23817@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jess M Holle) writes:
- >-> The only differences between software piracy and theft in general is that
- >->
- >-> 1) There is no direct material cost to this sort of theft.
-
- > Wrong. It takes years, thousands of hours of work, and
- >computer hardware to create and maintain an average software package.
- >All that material cost is in every copy of that program.
-
- That material cost is indirect. Software is freely manufactured
- once the mold is made, so to speak. Please debate the points I make,
- not the points you believe I make or assume I make for your own
- strange rhetorical purposes.
-
- >-> And, more importantly....
- >->
- >-> 2) There are MANY people who copy software which they simply cannot afford
- >-> to buy, and therefore are not really costing the companies money, but
- >-> rather simply acquiring products which they have no rights to use.
-
- > Is this supposed to justifiy the theft?
-
- No. It's supposed to decapitate your piracy=theft argument, having
- already dismembered kicked it severely about the gonads. But,
- like a chicken, it struggles on.
-
- Some famous and very wise French person whose name I am embarrassed
- to have forgotten said something like:
-
- The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the poor as well as the
- rich to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, to steal bread.
-
- >-> Together these two differences say one thing to me: software companies do
- >-> not actually lose NEARLY as much money as they say to piracy. Yes, if they
- >-> could have actually SOLD all the copies of software which are out there,
- >-> they would have X more dollars as they say. MOST of these copies would
- >-> simply never be purchased if people actually had to pay for them, however,
- >-> so the actual amount that software companies loose to piracy is something
- >-> like X/1000, IMHO.
-
- > If someone has a free copy available to them and has the money
- >to buy one, what are the chances of that person paying for it instead
- >of just continuing to use the free copy? The loses due to piracy each
- >year are huge and have much to do with the high cost of many packages.
-
- >-> For example, I, as a student, have spent over $1000 on 2 compilers, a word
- >-> processor, a spreadsheet program, and a drawing program. I use freeware
- >-> programs for most of my other needs, along with an occasional shareware
- >-> program. If I were to copy $10,000 worth of software for my own use, I
- >-> would, in reality, not be costing the companies a cent, since I cannot
- >-> possibly afford to buy any more software in the forseeable future. If
- >-> anything, I'd be providing free advertising.
-
- > If you really needed any of that sofware, you would find a way
- >to buy it if free copies weren't available.
-
- >-> I do not intend this to be an arguement for legalizing/moralizing piracy,
- >-> but rather to dispute the SPA's claim that $XXX,000,000 is lost to software
- >-> pirating. In light of the arguements above, this seems RIDICULOUS.
-
- > If you want to dispute their claim, you need to come up with
- >the statistics that dispute their statistics.
-
- This is weird. Who said what?
-
- Is illegal taping destroying the music industry?
- Yes, yes, yes!!! Instead of making billions and billions of dollars,
- they're only making billions of dollars....
-
- (Matt Groening, Life in Hell, from memory -- apologies for any errors.)
-
- Tonio
-
- --
- Tonio Loewald | tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au
-
- "Yes!! For the hundred and fiftieth time!
- We're burning in hell!!!" (John Callahan)
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