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- From: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com (Gantt Edmiston)
- Subject: ZEOS 36-bit SIMM info
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:04:01 GMT
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- Just wanted to "throw-up" some info regarding a situation I am
- involved with regarding ZEOS and their new 36 bit SIMM offerings.
-
- First some background. I recently purchased a ZEOS 486DX2-66
- system (package #4). Package 4 comes with 16 MBytes of RAM.
- Before placing my order, I asked about memory. The advertisements
- boasted the ability of these systems to be configured with 64Mbytes
- of memory (total). These systems use the newer 36 bit (32 data and 4
- parity bits) SIMMs. There are only four memory SIMM slots on the mother
- board. Do the math, and you'll soon see that the only way to configure
- 64MB in four slots is to have four 16MB SIMMs.
-
- OK. So when I placed my order, I asked for Package #4 and specified
- that I be sent the 16MB SIMM and NOT four 4MB (or two 8MB) SIMMs.
- The sales droid told me that he did not think the 16's were currently
- available but it would not be very much longer. He agreed that he would
- specify my desires and if the 16's became available during the build
- stage or within 30 days of receipt, I could exchange whatever I ended
- up with, for the single 16MB SIMM. Having no other choice, I agreed.
-
- Well as many of you may recall, it took not 3, but 11 weeks for the
- system to arrive. At that time, I did not receive the complete order
- so ZEOS was gracious enough to send me a letter stating that my 30
- day return-warranty would be extended and would not start until I had
- received the complete order. This *did* please me. The system came
- configured with four 4MB simms. This did *not* please me.
-
- My original order was placed on Oct 1, 1992 and I received the last
- piece of my order, the Intel modem on Jan 20, 1993. Now my 30 day window
- is starting to close. Earlier this week, I decided it was time to give
- the memory deal another shot. I called, waited, spoke, begged and pleaded
- and finally I was issued an RMA (return material authorization) for
- exchange of the four 4MB SIMMs. They say they still don't have the 16MB
- but offered to send me two 8MB SIMMs instead. So I figured this was
- better than nothing and the whole reason I wanted the higher density
- SIMMs is to free up some memory slots for future expansion. Otherwise,
- I would have to eat (or attempt to resell) some of the 4MB SIMMs in
- the future.
-
- OK, so today FedEX delivered the two 8MB SIMMs and GUESS WHAT...!
- The damn things are double-sided 4MB SIMMs. In case your also not
- aware, the SIMM slots on ZEOS motherboards are not spaced far enough
- apart to allow double-sided boards to be populated in adjacent slots.
- This means that I *still* have no room for expansion!! =-()
-
- The bottom line is this: ZEOS advertises systems that are expandable
- to 64MB. They currently tell me that they cannot provide me with
- the newest "single-sided" 16MB SIMMs and have no idea when they will
- get them. Some folks call this type of practice, "bait and switch".
- I am not going that far, I just wanted everyone on the net to know
- what to expect.
-
- BTW, these are the same style SIMMs that Gateway uses. I wonder
- if *their* motherboards have the SIMM slots correctly spaced?
-
- CAVEAT EMPTOR!
-
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