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- From: weigner@rcshq.adsp.sub.org (Jan Weigner)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: CBM Germany
- Message-ID: <weigner.3578@rcshq.adsp.sub.org>
- Date: 23 Jan 93 09:12:28 GMT
- References: <1993Jan19.163009.29399@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
- Organization: RCS Management Germany
- Lines: 71
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- In article <1993Jan19.163009.29399@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> TRECZOKS@rhea.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Christian Treczoks) writes:
- >Dear NetBeings,
- >
- >A friend of mine keeps having problems with the german branch of CBM.
- >So do I. So does our local dealer...
- >Dear Amigoid NetBeings,
- >
- >We are having several problems with the missing support by CBM germany...
- >Several severe problems.
- >
- >A friend of mine got an A3000 (one of the last) last week from the local
- >dealer. The dealer had this machine in stock for about 2 to 4 weeks.
- >But the machine was definitly one of the oldest A3000 ever built -- it
- >had no roms (at least no kickstart roms :), and booted 2.01 from harddisk
- >(yes. two point oh one!).
- >
- >As some applications do not run on 2.01 properly, and the < 2.04 KS/WB
- >is known to be as stable as a bag of plutonium, I asked the dealer
- >about an upgrade to at least 2.04. He said that an update from CBM
- >will not be available as far as they know. So I `organized' a 2.04
- >SuperKickstart disk to be able to use the machine.
- >
- >Another friend of mine ordered an A3000. The dealer asked CBM Germany, and
- >they said, they've got 12 machines still in stock, and confirmed the delivery.
- >On the next day, CBM called and said that the machine was no longer available.
- >
- >The dealer added to this that they keep having this sort of problems,
- >be it machines or accessory from CBM, and that he is very very angry about
- >it. Well, he's not alone.
- >
- >Another known problem are the hotline numbers. One has to dial more than
- >twenty times to reach someone. Unfortunately, the people on this line are
- >unable to answer even easy questions. E.g., they didn't even know that it is
- >possible to insert parameters into an alias with [], and the like.
- >
- >Some time ago a vendor announced to support amiga user groups -- they only
- >have to be registered at the national CBM branch. CBM Germany didn't even
- >know that there is something like a registered amiga user group, anyway.
- >
- >Q1: Is it really a problem to get an update from 2.01 to 2.04?
- > (A newly delivered machine should have at least a NEARLY up-to-date
- > OS version, IMHO)
- >
- >Q2: Could anybody from CBM anywhere tell CBM germany about these registered
- > user groups?
- >
- >Q3: Is Dr. P. Kittel unable to receive private mail? I tried his adress
- > to get answers to these questions, and never got a reply, but the
- > mail didn't bounce, either.
- >
- >All in all, we are `slightly embarrassed' about the German CBM --- hmmm,
- >well --- `support'. Any Opinions? Experiences with other CBM branches?
- >Or even with CBM germany?
- >
- >Yours, unsupported, Christian Treczoks (treczoks@rhea.cs.bonn.edu)
-
-
- I mean what do you expect from CBM, they are so fucking small company-wise
- Our local home savings bank has higher revenues than CBM worldwide and also
- makes more profit.
-
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