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- From: altman@cryton.demon.co.uk (Hugo Fiennes)
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- Subject: Re: In defence of RM Nimbus
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- References: <1993Jan25.152332.506@cs.nott.ac.uk>
- Organization: The Serial Port
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- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:03:17 +0000
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- In article <1993Jan25.152332.506@cs.nott.ac.uk> rsxdp@unicorn.nott.ac.uk writes:
-
- >Now come on, lets be fair to RM. The Nimbus PC186 was launched yonks
- >and yonks ago, before the IBM PC gained it's stranglehold. It used DOS
- >as it was originally intended - as a DISC operating system providing
- >a standard interface for file and character I/O. At the time, there were
- >several other machines that ran MS-DOS but were not IBM compatible (e.g.
- >the Sirius and Apricot). The Nimbus was FAR superior to the original IBM
- >PC - it didn't have the silly 640K memory limit, it's XBIOS had proper,
- >high-level graphics facilities, optimised for running WIMP operating
- >systems (in those days MS Windows V1) and it's graphics made CGA look
- Erm, are you saying that Windows v1 was launched while the Sirius was#
- around?!!!! The Sirius and early Apricots were only really of note until
- 1983ish. I don't think the PC186 was launched *that* early on (I may be
- wrong though...). Didn't it run GEM?
-
- >pathetic (O.K - Big Deal). Remember - the so-called "PC Standard" is
- >non-existent - the only parts of the PC that were designed as standards were
- > the basic I/O capabilities of DOS (files and dumb TTY) and the
- >format for expansion cards. The BIOS/XBIOS code that made a PC a PC was
- >proprietory to IBM (and they were having legal battles with cloners).
- >
- >Sadly the PC took off, and software houses started writing applications
- >that accessed the IBM PC XBIOS and hardware directly, and the superior
- >DOS machines like the Nimbus got marginalised.
- >
- >What *was* naughty was the way in which Nimbii were later promoted by
- >RM enthusiasts (I don't know that it was RM themselves) because they
- >"Ran Industry Standard MS-DOS" even when most PC software would only
- >run on the Nimbus under the rather flakey PC emulator. Mind you, at the
- >same time, Acorn Evangelists were plugging Acorn's PC board, which never
- >materialised...
- >
- (well, it has now, just a tad late, but I don't think Acorn ever expressed
- more than an interest in the hardware PC board becuase 'the software one
- works so well')
-
- Hugo
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