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- From: dik@cwi.nl (Dik T. Winter)
- Newsgroups: comp.std.internat
- Subject: Re: Alphabets
- Message-ID: <8719@charon.cwi.nl>
- Date: 24 Jan 93 23:31:26 GMT
- References: <2809@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp> <1993Jan24.172323.2706@enea.se> <1jutusINNlfa@life.ai.mit.edu>
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- In article <1jutusINNlfa@life.ai.mit.edu> glenn@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Glenn A. Adams) writes:
- > >There are about as many Latin alphabets as there are languages written
- > >with the Latin script, however many of them coincide. But if even if
- > >they coincide, the languages may use different modifiers.
- >
- > I believe your terminology is problematic here. There is only one Latin
- > alphabet, namely, the one used by the Romans. What I think you want to
- > say is that there are many Latin script-based alphabets. We can distinguish
- > between the Latin alphabet (as used by the romans), and a somewhat
- > artificial construct, the Latin script (as used by various alphabets).
- I think Erland meant this indeed.
- >
- > The Latin script can be though of as the union of symbols contained in
- > all alphabets which are predominantly derived from the symbols used in
- > the Roman alphabet.
- I have no problems with this and what followed. But now my question becomes:
- "What is Unicode encoding?". Scripts? Writing system? It is not encoding
- the Latin script I think. Consider for instance the German writing systems
- that have been used. Fraktur. Is that a different font? Suetterlin. Is
- that a different font? Many would think the latter not predominantly derived
- from the symbols used in the Roman alphabet. I see them as being more
- derived from the Germanic Runes. Still, there is a 1<->1 corespondence
- between the symbols in the Suetterlin script and the German version of the
- Latin script (I think). (I have some printed stuff in the Suetterlin script.
- I think there are very few people on the net able to read it, even in
- Germany. Below follows an approximation of lower case e:
- /| /|
- |/ |
- | |
- | |
- When there is interest I could scan in an advertisement in Suetterlin and
- mail it around.)
-
- > The decision on whether to unify the symbols drawn from a collection of
- > alphabets (i.e., to form a unified script which can represent the
- > different alphabets) should be based on the utility of performing
- > unification and not on linguistic or cultural relations among the
- > different alphabets [see my previous message on Script unification].
- I think you should add that unification of different scripts is possible
- iff the scripts can be viewed as just being font changes (although the
- derivation of the scripts can be completely different). So while you
- can unify the Suetterlin and the Latin script, you can not unify Latin
- and Greek script although Latin is derived from Greek.
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