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- From: mounil@mathworks.com (Mounil Patel)
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- Subject: Re: Why is the Software Process NOT working
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- Date: 26 Jan 93 22:32:48 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.185901.12145@Veritas.COM> Joshua Levy,
- joshua@Veritas.COM writes:
- >If you are a prof, and reading this, I hope you will look at your
- >degree requirements, and ask yourself two questions:
- > 1. Is my department teaching people how to be graduate students,
- > or engineers? Remember, most of your studies will become
- > engineers, not grad students.
- > 2. Is it possible to graduate from my department without writing a
- > test suite, modifing existing code, porting code between machines,
- > writing requirements, or undestanding version and release control?
- > These are the things that software engineers spend most of their
- > time doing in the real world. If you do not teach (or try to teach)
- > these things, your engineering degree is a fraud.
-
- I couldn't agree more. In today's market place, I don't think we've
- found a single undergrad (and few grads) that have had the training in
- their degree program to prepare them for "real world" software
- engineering tasks. It is a fraud to hand these kids a diploma and tell
- them they're ready to work when they haven't been taught anything nedded
- to work on today's applications. It's like teaching a journalism major
- how to speak english and then telling them they're ready to be reporters.
- Its time that colleges began teaching what students have come to learn,
- not some arcane program based on what technology was like in the 1950's.
-