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- Subject: Re: Info wanted on TCP/IP vs OSI 7 layer
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.141654.1@ptavv.llnl.gov>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 22:16:54 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan27.115319.21112W@lumina.edb.tih.no>, ketil@edb.tih.no (Ketil Albertsen,TIH) writes:
- > Almost any computer networks textbook will spend a page or two stating
- > that TCP corresponds to OSI Transport, IP to OSI net, but IP is
- > connectionless while OSI is CO. That's about it - sometimes I wonder
- > how they can spend several pages saying nothing more.
-
- Where did you get the idea that the OSI reference model cares whether the
- network layer runs CONS or CLNP? There are ISO standards for both and in the US
- GOSIP, CLNP is called for. Just because local authorities decide to run CONS
- (as most Europeans probably do) is no reason to assume that it is in the
- standard.
-
- While there are LOTS of ISO standards that fit in the OSI model, the OSI model
- is just that. It describes what each layer does as a general function, not
- specific. IP does fit into the OSI model at the network layer. It only lack
- blessings as an OSI standard. TCP fits into the transport layer the same way.
- (As do the ISO/CCITT approved TP0, TP1, TP2, TP3, and TP4.)
-
- Somewhere the idea has been popularized that OSI means interoperability in some
- way. Not so. That requires systems to run matching OSI profiles, like US GOSIP
- or UK GOSIP (or both). Otherwise you will get a system running TP0 and TP2
- trying to talk to one running TP4 with no success.
-
- To go a step further, there is nothing that prevents running the upper OSI
- level over TCP/IP. See RFC1006, and ISODE. And, for that matter, TCP could run
- on an ISO network protocol such as CLNP. In fact, the Internet Architecture
- Board even recommended exactly that to alleviate the lack of IP address space.
-
- R. Kevin Oberman Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
- Internet: koberman@llnl.gov (510) 422-6955
-
- Disclaimer: Don't take this too seriously. I just like to improve my typing
- and probably don't really know anything useful about anything.
-