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- From: joeg@novell.com (Joe Gervais)
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- Subject: Re: Moving from coax to 10BaseT
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.204839.8716@novell.com>
- Date: 25 Jan 93 20:48:39 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan25.182938.6414@novell.com> donp@novell.com (don provan) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan25.095134.25886@ica.philips.nl> geertj@ica.philips.nl (Geert Jan de Groot) writes:
- >>No, most certainly not. 10baseT is point-to-point. Which means that you
- >>have to have a separate connection between the HUB and every apparatus
- >>in your office. In my case, this would mean that I'd fill more than one
- >>hub, just for my own equipment!
- >
- >In my building, they just give each engineer an eight port 10baseT
- >fan-out unit (i guess the official term is "micro repeater"). I've
- >got two in my office. Am i breaking some 10baseT rule?
-
- IEEE allows 4 repeaters between any two end stations. I've seen two common
- approaches. For the site with the technical people that insist on using
- thinnet or 10base2 in their offices or labs because it's "easier to work
- with", 10baseT is used to feed the lab or office, and a 10baseT to 10base2
- repeater is installed. MIS gets the advantage of individual manageable
- segments to each office or lab, and the engineers get to keep their coax,
- but Bob removing a terminator or BNC tee in his office will not break the
- LAN in John's office.
-
- The second approach is the one Don mentioned, which is to structure the LAN
- so each office or LAB can have one more layer of repeaters.
-
- A legal topology diagram that abides by the 4 repeater, no more than 3
- tapped coax segments is as follows:
-
- 10base5 or 10base2 backbone
- -------------------------------
- | | |
- -------- -------- --------
- Wiring Closets | rptr | | rptr | | rptr |
- -------- -------- --------
- _______| | | |<----FOIRL or 10baseT
- - - - - - | - - - | - - - | - - - | - -
- | | | |
- -------- -------- -------- --------
- Labs / | rptr | | rptr | | rptr | | rptr |
- Offices -------- -------- -------- --------
- | | | | | | | | | | | |<---any media
-
- If you draw the topology as a tree, with a coax backbone, you can go down
- two levels of repeaters maximum, and the links between the two levels of
- repeaters must be link segments, or you will exceed the 3 populated coax
- segment rule. Note that with this topology, a large total number of
- repeaters can be used, because you aren't restricted to how many repeaters
- off the backbone segment, or how many repeaters off the first layer of
- repeaters, just as long as between any two DTEs, you don't traverse more
- than 4 repeaters. The problem I've usually seen is using 10baseT hubs
- and making three layers of repeaters, which puts five repeaters in the path
- between two DTEs. So Don, please be sure your second micro-repeater is not
- daisy-chained off the first, and you're probably okay.
-
- Joe Gervais
- Joe_Gervais@Novell.com
-