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- From: pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto)
- Newsgroups: comp.programming
- Subject: Re: Virus Programs 4 Sale (Virus, Trojans, etc)
- Message-ID: <1861@rwing.UUCP>
- Date: 29 Jan 93 03:10:02 GMT
- References: <1k2k6pINNdng@digex.digex.com> <1993Jan26.214320.7083@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
- Organization: Totally Unorganized
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- In article <1993Jan26.214320.7083@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann) writes:
- >In article <1k2k6pINNdng@digex.digex.com>, alby@access (Albatross) writes:
- >> Well now you can play with some of the most ruthless & destructive
- >>virus'es known to man. See if the Dark Avenger virus really can be detected
- >>by these money hungry anti-virus software companies, or if you dollars are
- >>paying off.
- >
- >Is it just me, or is this not a smart thing to do?
- >
- >IMHO, the best thing to do with a virus is destroy every copy you come across.
- >Claiming you "want to see if the virus protection program works" is foolish.
- >What happens if it doesn't? Suddenly, you've contaiminated your system with
- >a virus you have no protection against!
- >
- >If you want a good virus protection program, I think you would be far better
- >off simply asking for recommendations from the appropriate machine-specific
- >group.
-
- It seems to me that anybody even entertaining the idea of experimenting
- with virus samples would have the common sense of using a DEDICATED,
- and ISOLATED machine for the purpose. A machine that is not used for
- anything else. It would also have to be totally cleaned (including full
- reformat of the HD and reload from clean, write protected floppies and
- tapes) between the tests of each sample, to prevent a very possible
- corruption by other viruses not under test at the moment. Anything
- less than that would render any testing questionable, IMHO (not to
- mention risk of losing control of the samples being tested). This might
- be a bit much for some, but I have seen too many test results end up
- being useless because an unknown variable was in there mucking things
- up.
-
- That said, the active marketing of virus programs is not a great idea,
- at least from my point of view...
-
- I think information on how they work and attack systems should be more
- available, since that can give users a better handle on how to protect
- against virus attack. It seems those that create these virus programs
- have no problem getting the necessary information, but users gaining
- info to detect them is a different story. Having to be totally dependent
- on a software 'black box' that one can only blindly trust is not a very
- comforting position to be in. Have these ever failed? And if so, how
- come the failures are not widely published - is such information just
- kept quiet for the sake of the protection software vendors? From what
- I see, the art of virus detection is a VERY carefully guarded secret.
- That is a great disservice, IMO. It means users must be dependent on
- updates that are probably nearly obselete by the time they are distributed.
- Detection by noticing one's machine has gone GA-GA is not very helpful...
-
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