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- From: dmarer@td2cad.intel.com (Dennis Marer)
- Newsgroups: comp.programming
- Subject: Re: Virus Programs 4 Sale (Virus, Trojans, etc)
- Message-ID: <C1HCxD.H0w@inews.Intel.COM>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 21:27:12 GMT
- References: <1k2k6pINNdng@digex.digex.com>
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- In article <1k2k6pINNdng@digex.digex.com> alby@access.digex.com (Albatross) writes:
- > VIRUS'es FOR SALE
- > ----------------------------------
-
- Greetings,
-
- This message is in response to the 'Virus programs for sale' message
- posted recently on the comp.programming newsgroup.
-
- First, as mentioned in a subsequent post, commercial advertisement of
- products for sale on the Internet is taboo in all cases. It's a waste of
- resources and abusive to this delicate network. If the user in question is
- new to the Internet and does not know of this, it is excusable.
-
- Second, distribution of viruses, for whatever reason, always poses
- certain ethical questions. Mention was made of testing to insure virus
- scanners are working properly. In the hands of someone who is knowledgeable
- of computer viruses, this is perfectly feasible. However, one should remember
- one of the most common ways of transmitting viruses is completely by accident
- by users who are not familiar with them. Who is to say that a user who orders
- these disks of viruses is not going to accidentally pass these viruses on to
- a friend? Once the user has the virus, there is no control of what happens
- next. He or she could use the viruses as suggested, test his or her virus
- protection software, and be satisfied with the results. In another scenario,
- a potentially dangerous virus could be accidentally transferred by an
- unknowledgeable user. In the worst case, these viruses could intentionally be
- altered or distributed to incur harm on others.
-
- Consider if the original post had advertised several deadly biological
- viruses and diseases sold in hypodermic syringes, complete with needles. For
- only $20, you could buy a syringe filled with AIDS, bubonic plague, Herpes,
- and so on. At home, you could inject a small animal with this concoction to
- see if standard lab tests would detect such infections. Accidentally, the
- buyer could come in contact with these substances, become infected, and
- spread the disease to others. Or, also in the worst case, intentionally
- transmit the viruses to another person with intent to inflict harm.
-
- There are reasons viruses, biological or computer, are not freely
- disseminated. In the future, keep in mind that the people who need to know
- about the Schizo Trjoan or the Pakistan Virus already are very familiar with
- them, much more so than the average user. These people are doing research to
- prevent the spread of viruses by detection and prevention, such as the (this
- is a quote) "money hungry" Norton and McAfee Associates. The distribution of
- viruses counteracts their efforts, costing others time and money when a virus
- appears on their machines.
-
- It is my hope that the original poster realizes this fact before
- selling any copies of the 40 or so viruses listed in his post, weighs the
- consequences against his profit making scheme, and decides instead to return
- all checks and money orders, and to destroy all known copies of these viruses.
- As mentioned many times before, information is not dangerous, people using
- information in dangerous ways is dangerous. One could easily obtain the plans
- to build a nuclear bomb, but obtaining plutonium is a little more difficult.
- It's not intentional misuse of computer viruses I am wary of; it's the
- unintentional spread that is more dangerous to the average user. In this
- case, the 'bomb' is already built, and it's for sale at $20 a disk.
-
- Dennis Marer
- dmarer@td2cad.intel.com
-
- -- Not speaking for Intel
-