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- From: dean2@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu (Dean Pentcheff)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.networking
- Subject: Re: Small LAN questions
- Followup-To: comp.os.os2.networking
- Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:29:54 GMT
- Organization: Department of Biology, University of South Carolina, Columbia
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- wow@cup.portal.com (wallace otis waggoner) writes:
- > I've just installed the OS/2 TCP/IP base system, Network File System,
- >and Xwindows System Server. I have a Wyse 370 color terminal and a Relysis
- >170cp. Can I connect these to a serial port on my 486 server? If so, how?
-
- I think (but I am not sure - I've never done this) that you might be
- able to use a program called OS2You (available via anonymous FTP from
- the OS/2 archive on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu). But basically, OS/2 is not
- set up to support serial terminals. All you'd ever get is a command-
- line interface. This is not what you really want to see with a
- graphical operating system like OS/2.
-
- > If this is not possible how do I connect another pc to my server?
- >The manuals from IBM do not discuss any connection outside of Ethernet.
- >Must I use these or can I connect my 486Server to a 386pc via serial port.
- >What kind of perfomance can I expect.
-
- The best option by far is to buy an Ethernet board for each of your
- PCs. Check the most recent issue of PC Magazine for a review of
- zillions of Ethernet boards. We're talking $100 for a cheap but
- adequate board. Make sure you get it with NDIS software, if it's
- not a board that's comes with a driver in IBM's LAPS package. In
- theory you could do it via serial ports, using the SLIP (Serial Line
- IP) driver included with the TCP/IP package, but (a) the performance
- will be terrible; and (b) it's not worth the trouble since Ethernet
- boards are pretty cheap.
-
- > I am trying to put together a small network without the overhead
- >of Novell or IBM's equivalent. I can't afford to dedicate a server and
- >very much like the idea of distributed computing.
-
- You can do that using IBM's TCP/IP package. The Base package alone
- will let you do transparent printer sharing, copy files back and forth
- ("ftp"), and get a command-line login on other machines ("telnet").
- Add the NFS package and you can share files. Portions of other
- computers' disks appear as additional disk drives on your machine and
- are accessed over the Ethernet.
-
- > Where does the Xwindow fit into all of this? I have tried Desqview/X
- >between to systems and liked it very much except tha it was still Dos.
- >However, could I connect a PC w/Desqview/X to my Server utilizing the
- >Xwindow System Server included with the IBM TCP/IP?
-
- For the sort of network you're considering, X Windows doesn't fit in.
- X Windows is a protocol (developed for Unix machines, originally) to
- allow a program to run on one machine, but display (and get keyboard
- input) from another machine. This becomes very useful if you've got
- a Unix host on your network. Then you can run X programs on the host
- and have them display on OS/2 machines - i.e. use the Unix as the
- powerful back-end and the OS/2 machines as display front-ends. The
- reason this doesn't work for an OS/2 network (yet!) is that there
- are no programming tools to allow one to develop X Windows programs
- the actually run on OS/2 (i.e. the core program both runs and can
- display on OS/2 systems). We hope this situation will change soon, but
- for the time being, if you don't have X applications on a Unix box
- that you can access over the net, the X Windows package will do you
- no good.
-
- On further consideration (and actually _reading_ what you wrote): X
- Windows might not be useless IF Desqview/X can serve as an X Windows
- client (confusingly, in X terminology, the "client" is the machine that
- runs the core program; the "server" is the machine that runs the
- display front-end). The IBM package is an X "server" (i.e. display
- front-end). Desqview/X can certainly act as a "server" also, but
- whether it also has "client" capabilities (i.e. can run a program that
- displays elsewhere), I don't know. If it does, then you could run
- client programs on your Desqview/X PC and have them display on your
- OS/2 machine.
-
- > Very much appreciate any help I can get.
- >Wally Waggoner
- >wow@cup.portal.com
-
- You're very welcome. For further gory details on TCP/IP under OS/2,
- see the document "/pub/os2/2.0/network/tcpstart.txt" on the archive
- server ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.
-
- -Dean
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- Department of Biology, University of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29205
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