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- From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer
- Subject: Re: Unerase - how does it wor
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- Date: 23 Jan 93 20:59:30 GMT
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- In article <markus.403.727387680@clement.info.umoncton.ca> markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (PAULIN MARC) writes:
- >In article <C111JG.H5q@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard) writes:
- >>Now, about the poster question. How does UNERASE to retrieve the chain?
- >>It guesses. A sequential written file (i.e. after saving a text file)
- >>will use the sequential available clusters and the "erased" file entry
- >>still contains the 1st FAT entry position. Thus, the 1st guest is
- >>that 1st FAT and the next available clusters. Is the file is less than
- >>one cluster size (i.e. with older DOS versions and larger disks,
- >>a cluster was likely 8k, with
- >>last DOS or smaller disks, it is more likely 2k), so if the file is small
- >>enough (and the UNERASE program knows the size of a cluster) and the cluster
- >>is available, then the UNERASE program will say that this file can be unerased.
- >>But if the file is larger, then the probability it can be unerased is smaller.
- >>To add to confusion, some disk utility will preserve the chains after
- >>erasing a file, so the files can be unerased with less guess. Also, there is
- >>probably some method (which I just don't know) to find the chain in DOS
- >>memory, but this is a guess.
- >
- >
- > Es-tu sur? It guesses? You mean it guesses the file position on
- >the disk? I doubt it. What if the file is fragmented? That's not
-
- Most data is written in the next sequentially available cluster.
- In other words, if I read a large file into memory, modify it and save
- it to disk, the clusters DOS will use will be each consecutive available
- cluster. Fragmentation will occur later, after you erased files using
- the intermediate clusters.
-
- >sequential. When the file is erased, the pointers in the FAT that points to
- >the clusters are not erased. Only the first character of the filename is.
-
- Yes, they are. See the FAT format. A FAT entry indicates either a
- free cluster, the next cluster for the same file or the last cluster in
- a file. Nothing to link a free cluster. Actually, the DOS does this:
- in the directory entry, erase the name by overwritting the 1st character;
- in the FAT table, replace all cluster links entries by free cluster entries.
- From the directory erase operation, the 1st cluster position is known,
- but from the FAT operation, the other clusters are unknown. The guess
- is on the other clusters.
-
- >When you use UNERASE or UNDELETE, it checks the directory structure for
- >filenames with the first character deleted, then checks the FAT if all the
- >pointers are there and intact, then asks you for the character. Don't
-
- It can't. Only the first cluster is known. The chain is missing.
-
- >forget that the filename found in the directory contains the address of the
- >first pointer in the FAT. So it's not a sequential search. Imagine for a
- >500Meg HD, it would take dozens of minutes to sequentially scan all
- >available clusters.
-
- So, try this test. Write many small files. Delete some of them so as
- to create a random pattern. Re-boot (if you don't, DOS will continue
- to write at the next cluster available following the last write).
- Write a large file. Delete the many small files and the large file.
- Try to unerase the large file and give me some news...
-
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