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- From: rchen@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Chen)
- Subject: Re: Filesystems for people providing packets
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.193218.11459@sfu.ca>
- Sender: news@sfu.ca
- Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
- References: <1993Jan24.032251.22453@umibox.hanse.de> <1993Jan26.000802.14279@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> <1993Jan26.023948.4305@cheshire.oxy.edu>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:32:18 GMT
- Lines: 48
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- In article <1993Jan26.023948.4305@cheshire.oxy.edu> rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David Giller) writes:
- >bogstad@blaze.cs.jhu.edu (Bill Bogstad) wrote:
- >>In article <1993Jan24.032251.22453@umibox.hanse.de> root@umibox.hanse.de (Bernd Meyer) writes:
- >>>It's this:
- >>>I want to encourage everyone who plans to upload any of his works to
- >>>ftp-sites to use a file system that is NOT the minix one. The reason is that
- >>>while names like "page-up-window" match the request "page-up-window.h" when
- >>>used on that fs, it is a nightmare for everybody using a fs with long names
- >>>to rename all the files with truncated names.
-
- >> A better solution in my opinion is to use shorter filenames
- >>(pgup-window.h for example). Until efs, xfs or some other filesystem with
- >>longer names becomes the "standard" Linux filesystem; it is preferable that
-
- >overwrite the first with no error when untarring. This is unavoidable
- >on packages which originated outside Linux, but it would be nice if
- >people would provide for the 14-char limit that is still common on
- >UNIX systems today.
- >
- >-Dave
-
-
- #ifdef SLIGHTLY_IRATE_MODE (hit 'n' now, apologies in advance, etc)
-
- Sigh... Must we really condemn ourselves to names like dskblkdrv.c
- for the rest of time because of bad decisions made 20 years ago? Given
- current trends, the minix file system is going to be around a very
- long time. The author of xfs respectfully suggests that we replace
- the minix file system with the xfs because it has more functionality
- than minix, while still being based strongly on the minix code so that
- it retains most of minix's stability - a damn good idea IMO.
-
- But what happens? People jump on him for his tyranical ways and
- for not adding every bell and wistle to the filesystem (bells that
- minix doesn't have anyway). Then we busilly truncate perfectly good
- file names like page_up_window to pgupwin.
-
- I do not know of a modern Unix operating system that does not support
- long file names. Berkeley got it right years ago. When linux 1.0
- gets released and reviews start being written, people will see linux
- with its 64 megabyte 14 character filename standard filesystem and
- will think "gee, how cute, it's just like minix/coherent, only free."
- I think that linux deservs better than this.
-
-
- Feeling better now,
-
- - Rob
-