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- From: davis@passy.ilog.fr (Harley Davis)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
- Subject: Re: Why Isn't Lisp a Mainstream Language?
- Message-ID: <DAVIS.93Jan28184144@passy.ilog.fr>
- Date: 28 Jan 93 17:41:44 GMT
- References: <1993Jan27.070106.28425@ads.com>
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- Organization: ILOG S.A., Gentilly, France
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- In-reply-to: bvrotney@ADS.COM's message of 27 Jan 93 07:01:06 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan27.070106.28425@ads.com> bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney) writes:
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- (Arun Welch) writes:
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- > I think an associated question we should be asking is "How can we
- > increase Lisp's popularity"? Knowing why it isn't popular is a good
- > thing to discuss, but it would also be good to know where to go from
- > here. Another question is "Should Lisp be a mainstream language?" I'm
- > not sure the answer to that is yes. A lot of neat ideas have risen out
- > of Lisp not having been standardised to death early on. CLOS is a case
- > in point. If we'd standardised on Interlisp and LOOPS or Zetalisp and
- > Flavors I think we'd be a lot poorer today.
-
- Yes "Where to go from here?" I am disappointed that the Lisp leadership is
- not addressing this question. This begs for something like the Common Lisp
- project but aimed at making Lisp smaller and faster in an organized way. I
- was reading about a KERNEL lisp specification in Lisp and Symbolic
- Computation. Perhaps something along these lines should be hit with force.
- Lisp leadership where are you? Give us something to be hopeful for.
-
- I suggest you look at EuLisp and Dylan as steps in this direction. I
- would also like to humbly offer Ilog's Le-Lisp version 16 as another
- member of this set of modern Lisps which attempt to address the
- deficiencies and excesses of previous Lisps, although I have a certain
- commercial stake in it. Also, the emerging ISO Lisp standard is much
- smaller than Common Lisp while retaining the most useful features such
- as a small, CLOS-like object system.
-
- -- Harley Davis
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