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- From: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us (Doug Philips)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
- Subject: Re: Evolution of Forth (was: Documenting)
- Message-ID: <4269.UUL1.3#5129@willett.pgh.pa.us>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 23:07:44 GMT
- Organization: EIEI-U
- Lines: 31
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- In article <1504@eouk9.eoe.co.uk>
- ahaley@eoe.co.uk (Andrew Haley) writes:
- +Chuck's environment has never stood still. He's been refining it and
- +making it simpler and simpler for what he wants to do. His current
- +system (which is called OK) doesn't use BLOCK at all because all of
- +the code and data he needs fits into memory, and he can just write all
- +of memory into a file. This system is used to design a 100 MIP
- +microprocessor, which traditionally requires a good sized workstation
- +with a big disk; Chuck does all of his design without using the disk
- +at all! It's only there to make backups.
-
- [It would be interesting to see if there is a "core" set of words that
- CM has consistently used through out all his modifications and new systems.]
-
- I think the argument about blocks versus files versus either-or-both has
- very reactionary elements in it. It seems to me that CM's own process of
- evolving Forth clearly indicates that any specific version of Forth (fig,
- 79, 83, ANSI, whatever), is merely a snapshot in time/utility-space. I
- think Chuck Eaker's point about questioning versus rejecting complexity is
- salient here. While we may find particular insights from what CM has done
- in his evolutionary process, we need to recognize that his changes are in
- response to specific needs and constraints, and that his needs and
- constraints may be very different from anyone elses. Just because CM at
- some point in history said, for example, that blocks are the be all and
- end all of disk storage, doesn't mean that statement is still true given
- current needs and constraints. Dogmatic insistence on change and dogmatic
- resistence to change are not opposites.
-
- -Doug
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