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- From: srctran@world.std.com (Gregory Aharonian)
- Subject: Re: Leffler's Lies: A biased critique of a general
- In-Reply-To: wellerd@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu's message of Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:21:44 EST
- Message-ID: <SRCTRAN.93Jan25223752@world.std.com>
- Sender: srctran@world.std.com (Gregory Aharonian)
- Organization: The World
- References: <1993Jan25.162144.19457@sei.cmu.edu>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:37:52 GMT
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- >Saddest was his statement: "You don't see any financial
- >communities in the business world using (Ada). It's not out in the
- >commercial venture any place that I'm aware of."
-
- >I wonder how the esteemed general got his stars? It certainly
- >doesn't look like he got promoted on being well-informed. (Yeah,
- >yeah, I'll probably be flamed for ad hominem attacks, but I'm
- >really getting FED UP with people making ill-informed decisions.
-
- In the absolute sense, the general is obviously wrong. In any
- application field you can think of, people are using Ada. However
- in the relative sense, he is probably right. Outside of the mandated
- world, Ada use is less than 5% of all total software development.
- I do not have exact figures, and unfortunately the Pentagon got ripped
- off by the Mosemann study consultants, who prepared a totally inaccurate
- survey of Ada and C/C++ use in all sectors of the economy.
-
- The fact is that most statements about Ada outside the mandated world
- are impossible to prove true or false, as the data does not exist. And
- most economic statements made about Ada in the mandated world are also
- nearly impossible to prove true or false, because as the GAO pointed out
- many years ago and still unresolved, is that no one is collecting the
- data to make such assessments.
-
- >Why do people still accept 1985-based arguments for NOT using Ada?
-
- Wrong question. It should be "not SUPPORTING Ada?". Ever wonder why
- there are few entrepreneurs associated with Ada, why other than for a
- few defense contractors and Ada vendors, there are few companies able
- to sustain a marketing campaign for Ada tools and libraries? Because
- starting an Ada business is a good way to loose money, while starting
- a C/C++ business is a good way to make money. Who the hell is dumb
- enough to start an Ada business under these conditions? I invested
- a lot of time and my own money building a large database of information
- on all of the reusable software available from all of the government
- agencies, in particular the DoD. I went to a few Tri-Ada conferences,
- even exhibited, and all I got was a slap in the face. No business from
- any contractors, no attention from any DoD offices. I even published
- a column in a Defense journal monthly reviewing freely available defense
- software (talk about reuse advocacy) and nothing. I learned my lesson
- and moved to other software arenas. Multiply my experiences many times
- over, and you'll start to understand why few voluntarily support the
- Ada industry. Between archiac DoD procurement regulations that discourage
- reuse (long ago identified but still on the books) and contractors too
- scared to take a chance in acquiring reusable software, the results are
- a stillborn Ada support business.
-
- About the General, hey at least he mentioned Ada in an interview. It still
- is outrageous (but at least he's gone) that Strassman never mentioned Ada
- in any of the interviews in the mainstream computer industry. When everyone
- else dropped the ball, it was his duty to set the example. He didn't,
- no one doesn't, IBM still sabotages Ada by not including it in AD/CYCLE and
- AD/Platform, and Ada goes no where.
-
- Start focussing you ire at inept DoD software initiatives and policies.
- Leave the poor general alone. Instead write letters to your congressman
- asking why none of the truly inonvative software supposedly being
- developed by the STARS program is never exhibited at commercial CASE
- conferences and trade shows?
-
- Greg Aharonian
- Source Translation & Optimization
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