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- From: srctran@world.std.com (Gregory Aharonian)
- Subject: Re: Guest account at Center for Software Reuse
- In-Reply-To: jbg@sei.cmu.edu's message of Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:48:31 EST
- Message-ID: <SRCTRAN.93Jan25124308@world.std.com>
- Sender: srctran@world.std.com (Gregory Aharonian)
- Organization: The World
- References: <1993Jan19.223357.24513@nosc.mil> <5815@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil>
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- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:43:08 GMT
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- John Goodenough comments on my comments about excessive SEI and CSRO secrecy:
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- >I can't resist mentioning that the primary benefit of this rule is to
- >eliminate theft of computer equipment, of which we have a lot! Imagine the
- >(accurate) charge of "incompetence" that would be levied if we were regularly
- >ripped off! (People do enter the building and use the facilities unescorted
- >once they have been vouched for by someone on the staff.)
-
- This is still a pathetic excuse. In my efforts to track all of the
- government's resuable software (over 20,000 programs at latest count,
- not that anyone really cares about the government's software) I have
- visited most of the DoE, NASA, and many DoD facilities such as Argonne
- National Laboratory in Chicago, Ames Research Center at Moffett Field,
- Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, Air Force Geophysical Library at
- Hanscom field, as well as many universities such as MIT, Berkeley, UCSD,
- Rice, and Department of Commerce Facilities such as NIST in Gaithersburg.
- At most, all I ever have to do is sign in (name and address) to get
- pretty much free access to all of the facilities (except of obviously
- secret offices or laboratories with complex equipment setups). At all
- of these places, I have access to all types of equipment, especially
- much more expensive stuff than that at SEI. So this equipment protection
- excuse is very lame.
-
- Also, in tracking all of the government's software (and building a process
- to do so, again not that any of the tax wastinf reuse people care), I have
- had access to a variety of computer systems at these facilities, much over
- the Internet through anonymous FTP. For all of these computer systems, my
- access to their systems was restricted to the public areas they controlled,
- a small price to pay to get access. They protect what they want to protect,
- they make available what they want to make available. So the CSRO excuse
- about taking their systems off line for secrecy reasons is also pathetic.
-
- It borders on criminality all of these DoD reuse efforts that have been
- unable to make use of the Internet to provide easy access to reusable Ada
- software, either through a service like NETLIB, postings to alt.sources.ada,
- or anonymous ftp. It's one of the reasons (not that anyone cares) that
- C and C++ are leaving Ada in the reusable dust. There is hundreds of
- megabytes of C/C++ software floating over the Internet everyday, without
- needing the millions of dollars flushed down the drain of Ada reuse efforts.
-
-
- Greg Aharonian
- Source Translation & Optimization
- 617-489-3727 (call I can't bite you over the telephone!)
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