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- From: palmer@icat.larc.nasa.gov (Michael T. Palmer)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,alt.security
- Subject: Re: Caller ID products?
- Date: 27 Jan 93 20:48:51 GMT
- Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA
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- johnt@ee.ubc.ca (John Jay G. Tanlimco) writes:
-
- >The question is, why can't a person get the number made by a Call Trace?
-
- Hmmm. Good point - I hadn't thought about it *that* way. You're right...
- it seems silly not to also release the number obtained by Call Trace, since
- if you had Caller-ID and the number wasn't blocked, you know what it is
- anyway!
-
-
- >>This is what really gets me. The TelCo markets Caller-ID as somehow
- >>protecting personal privacy from intimidating calls, knowing full well that
- >>nothing you do with Caller-ID is worth a damn when it comes to trying to
- >>stop a real prank caller. Only Call Trace is really evidence. But, oh, if
-
- >But wouldn't prank callers think twice, knowing their calls can be traced
- >easily. Even if it isn't admissible as evidence, if you call them back
- >right after they called you, that should scare the prankster.
-
- See your own note below about using pay phones.
-
-
- >>you happen to be a business, look at the deal we've got for you! Names and
- >>numbers of everyone who calls you, with a cross-referenced database to get
- >>their address, too!
-
- >If you call someone, don't they have a right to know who you are? If you
- >insist on having privacy, use a public pay phone.
-
- Why is calling a store to ask for a price any different from walking in
- to ask? Are you saying that stores should have the right to require my
- name, address, and phone number before I can enter their store or ask them
- any questions about their goods or services?
-
- If for some reason you DO think they have this right, then isn't it their
- responsibility to let me know of this policy BEFORE I hand over the
- information so I can choose to not reveal it and terminate our budding
- business relationship immediately? With Caller-ID (and no blocking) I
- am not even given the chance to make this decision (note to Terry Parks:
- please resist the temptation to tell me that I shouldn't have tried to
- call them in the first place).
-
- --
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