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- From: gints@prophet.esd.sgi.com (Gints Klimanis)
- Newsgroups: comp.arch
- Subject: Re: HOw many PC's make an Amdahl mainframe
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- Date: 26 Jan 93 22:06:24 GMT
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- Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
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- Michael Jones of SGI was generous enough to take the time. He also
- comments that the mainframe as a whole is a more usable configuration
- than the sum of the PC's.
-
- Michael Jones:
-
- I bet we could estimate it closely this way: Amdahl's powerful
- mainframe must use advanced technology parts in order to be
- so powerful. Parts of 2x the performance usually cost > 2x the
- price. Harwdare system vendors get 4x to 6x parts cost as sale
- price, while PC parts at Frye's are close to wholesale (2x).
-
- Ergo:
-
- Amdahl mainframe at $a. (say $3M)
- Amdahl cost at a/4 (at the most)
- this figure (a/4) represents "potential energy" of a sort.
-
- Typical system at Frye's is $p (say $2000).
- Frye's price is 2x cost, say, so the question is:
- How many cheap PC's for 2*(a/4), == a/(2p).
-
- Answer: 3,000,000/(2*2,000) = 750 pc's == 1 Amdahl
-
- How reasonable is this, I wonder?
-
- 750*30 MIPS = 22.5 BIPS
- 750*200MB = 150 GBytes of DIsk
- 750*1Mb/s = 750 MBytes/sec Disk transfer
- 750 floppy drives = 1.08 GBytes removable storage ;-)
- 750*4Mb RAM = 3 Gbytes of RAM
- 750*Lotus 1-2-3 = 750 concurrent users
- 750*1 RS-232 = 750 network attachments
-
- Sounds ok. Now how big would the room capable of housing
- 750 pc's need to be? Well, if they were stacked in a cube
- and each was 24"x24"x8", we have 3x^3 = 750, x^3 = 250,
- and x = 6.3. Rounding to x = 7, we have a stack that's
- 7x7x(3x7) for a size of 7*24 = 14 x 14 x 14 feet. Well,
- that's too big, lets stack them half as high. Now the
- room is 2^(1/2) bigger on each side, so it must be 19.7
- feet on a side. Rounding, we get:
-
- A room 20' x 20' stacked solid with PC's 7' high.
-
- Well, we need some room to get to the machines, so we can
- change the 750 floppies during backups. Let's make the
- room 3x the length, so we have long rows of stacked PC's
- with 4' aisles. Now the room is:
-
- 20' wide, 60' long, and 7' high.
-
- The question is, are there any rooms this large in the
- world?
-