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- From: acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih)
- Subject: Re: Food chain (was Re: Killing animals (was Re: hunting dog wanted))
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.112358.5531@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
- References: <1993Jan26.233258.11511@elegant.com> <1993Jan27.040833.4696@cdf.toronto.edu> <1993Jan27.050146.20438@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> <1993Jan27.145039.4451@cdf.toronto.edu>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 16:23:58 GMT
- Lines: 49
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- I will take the liberty of rearranging some text in the interests of
- readability, rather than misrepresentation.
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- In <1993Jan27.145039.4451@cdf.toronto.edu> g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh) writes:
-
- >In article <1993Jan27.050146.20438@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih) writes:
-
- >>In the end, living things *compete*. They compete for food, space,
- >>water, air, and any other resource required for life. Ultimately,
- >>the question is:
- >> Do you wish to compete? (i.e.: Do you wish to live?)
-
- >Alvin, as I mentioned in another article I *do* realize that it is often
- >impossible to avoid harming others. But isn't this all the more reason
- >to minimize the harm we do whenever we can?
-
- Ok. I can agree with this. (Though I was once told, "Hell is filled
- with people with good intentions.". That's why I don't have any! :-)
-
- >In the states, for each acre of forest cleared for parking lots, roads,
- >houses, shopping centres, etc., *seven* are cleared for meat production
- >(land for grazing or growing feed). I don't have the stats for Canada,
- >but I see little reason to suspect it's much different. If everyone
- >became vegetarian, a great deal of this land could be returned to its
- >natural state.
-
- Well, it's not like we're comparing meat against parking lots as sources
- of food. But, if I recall, someone (maybe you) said that if everyone
- were to omit meat from their diets, then we'd require 1/7th the current
- amount of land for the purposes of agriculture. This sounds like a good
- thing.
-
- I actually wouldn't be upset if meat were outlawed. Meat is simply
- made convient in our society. Notice that my stand softens when you
- attack meat on environmental rather than moral grounds (because
- there is no definitive measure for morality).
-
- I think it is probably in the best interests of animal right activits
- to at least *pretend* to be environmental activists. I'm sure they
- would receive much more sympathy if they would *concentrate* on arguing
- in terms of something measurable.
-
- ACS
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