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- From: g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh)
- Newsgroups: can.general,talk.politics.animals
- Subject: Food chain (was Re: Killing animals (was Re: hunting dog wanted))
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.040833.4696@cdf.toronto.edu>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 04:08:33 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.233258.11511@elegant.com> woods@elegant.com (Greg A. Woods) writes:
- >Normally a "food chain" implies that one critter/life-form eats another,
- >right down the line until we have "critters" consuming only inanimate
- >substances and energies (no, energy is not "animate"!).
-
- So? Some animals, like rabbits, are herbivores => veganism is natural.
-
- >I for one am not about to go against something so fundamental as that!
-
- *Agriculture* goes against nature!
-
- >Or are you going to say that since we human critters are intelligent, we
- >should know better than to kill and consume other sentient beings?
-
- Yup.
-
- >If
- >so, why can't a "sentient" tiger perceive the wishes of the elk, or a
- >sentient house cat perceive the wishes of the mouse?
-
- Who knows? I have no way of discussing these issues with tigers and house
- cats, since I don't speak any feline language.
-
- >Oh, you say the
- >tiger and the cat aren't intelligent enough to respect the wishes of the
- >elk and mouse.
-
- Not to mention they will die without meat, at least in the wild where they
- have no access to human manufactured supplements. Clearly their situation
- is quite different from that of humans, for whom meat consumption is an
- option, not a necessity.
-
- >Well why should intelligent beings like ourselves
- >respect the wishes of the tiger or cat, or the elk or mouse for that
- >matter?
-
- Would you also say that since babies are liable to urinate on adults' laps,
- it is okay for adults to urinate on babies? We cannot use the different
- capacities of others as an excuse to be less than compassionate to them.
-
- [...]
- >BTW, from my layman's understanding of omnivorous critters, they chose
- >their diet as a matter of efficiency and necessity. For example, some
- >necessary proteins might not be easily available in a given class of
- >food in sufficient quantity or appropriate combination to satisfy the
- >requirements of the critter.
-
- Fortunately, humans can easily get all the proteins and other required
- nutrients without consuming meat. (In some respects it is *easier* to have
- a well balanced diet as a vegetarian, because of higher fibre and lower fat.
- Not to mention a nice hearty bean stew fills you up with fewer calories,
- making overeating less likely.)
- --
- Rosemary Waigh Undergraduate, Computer Science / Linguistics
- g9rwaigh@cdf.utoronto.ca University of Toronto
- "You have just dined, and however scrupulously the slaughterhouse is
- concealed in the graceful distance of miles, there is complicity." - Emerson
-