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- From: g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh)
- Subject: Re: Food chain (was Re: Killing animals (was Re: hunting dog wanted))
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.143751.3729@cdf.toronto.edu>
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- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:37:51 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan27.063010.20602@csi.uottawa.ca> cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan27.040833.4696@cdf.toronto.edu> g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh) writes:
- >>So? Some animals, like rabbits, are herbivores => veganism is natural.
- >Unfortunately, this goes against the corresponding principle:
- >Some animals, like eagles, are carnivores => carnivism (?sp) is also
- >equally natural.
-
- I never said carnivory was unnatural, I was merely responding to the other
- poster's claim that veganism was going against nature, so we shouldn't do
- it. I don't base my ethical decisions on whether they are "natural" or not.
- For example, a high infant mortality rate is "natural". All medical treatment
- is "unnatural". Yet I would choose to provide medical treatment for those
- who need it if at all possible.
-
- >>Fortunately, humans can easily get all the proteins and other required
- >>nutrients without consuming meat.
- >Which makes vegetarianism a form of moral relativism, since it is only
- >in a highly agriculturalized society that it is possible to attain
- >such nutrients without consuming meat.
-
- What I am saying is that since the people reading this article have the
- choice between veg(etari)anism and meat-eating, it is unethical for them
- to eat meat. Since you have this choice, if you eat meat you are causing
- *avoidable* suffering and death!
-
- >Or would you argue that at those times that it was NOT possible to
- >live as a vegetarian due to the combination of:
- >a) Lack of suitable vegetable proteins, and
- >b) Lack of knowledge of nutrition,
- >that it was immoral to eat meat THEN? You set yourself up for the
- >"kill", in that if vegetarian is NOT a form of moral relativism, that
- >it is correspondingly moral to cause people to starve to death.
-
- I would not fault someone for eating meat if the only alternative really
- was death for themselves. However, no one reading this article is in that
- situation.
-
- We can also come up with similar situations where it is necessary to kill
- other people; however this does *not* mean it is okay to kill other people
- in general.
- --
- Rosemary Waigh Undergraduate, Computer Science / Linguistics
- g9rwaigh@cdf.utoronto.ca University of Toronto
- "You have just dined, and however scrupulously the slaughterhouse is
- concealed in the graceful distance of miles, there is complicity." - Emerson
-