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- From: g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh)
- Subject: Re: Killing animals (was Re: hunting dog wanted)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.031332.11371@cdf.toronto.edu>
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- References: <4078@isgtec.isgtec.com> <1993Jan25.142223.20600@cdf.toronto.edu> <C1F7Kq.Lxr@math.uwaterloo.ca>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:13:32 GMT
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- In article <C1F7Kq.Lxr@math.uwaterloo.ca> rbutterw@math.uwaterloo.ca (Ray Butterworth [MFCF]) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan25.142223.20600@cdf.toronto.edu> g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh) writes:
- >> To kill
- >> them is to go against their wishes. Killing non-human animals is wrong
- >> for the same reasons that killing human animals is wrong.
- >
- >Does this apply to all animals? I think Einstein said something like
- >"I gave up gardening after I realized I was cutting worms in two."
- >
- >So, do you refuse to eat any vegetables that might have been grown
- >in soil that might contain worms? If so you must be a big supporter
- >of hydroponics and other chemical-intensive gardening methods.
-
- As I mentioned in another post (written after you wrote this) I do realize
- that sometimes killing animals is unavoidable, e.g. the tragic deaths of
- animals who harm food crops. However, these unavoidable deaths I think
- cannot be taken as justification to wantonly kill or injure animals when we
- could avoid it. Farming is a dangerous occupation and we can be certain
- that people too have been injured in growing our food; but this does not
- mean that we condone injuring people or that it is okay to injure people
- even when we can avoid it.
-
- I do not, however, patronize florists (aside from the animal-killing problem
- is the serious issue that in some South and Central American countries
- precious fertile land is wasted growing flowers while less affluent people
- go short of food, according to my high school geography teacher). Currently
- I live in an apartment; however, if I did have a house with a back yard I
- would not harm any animals merely to provide an ornamental garden or lawn.
-
- >There are people that
- >have chosen even more strictly than you have. If we are wrong in
- >your eyes, then you are wrong in theirs using exactly the same
- >reasoning and logic. And if they were to accuse you of being a
- >cruel person for making the choice where you did, I don't think
- >that would be an effective way of convincing you to make a different
- >choice.
-
- On the contrary, I would welcome any new information, and would change
- my lifestyle accordingly, as I did in the past.
- --
- Rosemary Waigh Undergraduate, Computer Science / Linguistics
- g9rwaigh@cdf.utoronto.ca University of Toronto
- "You have just dined, and however scrupulously the slaughterhouse is
- concealed in the graceful distance of miles, there is complicity." - Emerson
-