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- From: knowled@ccsmtp.ccf.org (Doug Knowles)
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- Subject: Re: primary afferent depolarization
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- Date: 26 Jan 93 18:06:52 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.123642.11726@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> senseman@lucy.brainlab.utsa.edu (David M. Senseman) writes:
- >From: senseman@lucy.brainlab.utsa.edu (David M. Senseman)
- >Subject: Re: primary afferent depolarization
- >Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:36:42 GMT
- >In article <9301251254.AA21883@xray1.cshl.org> anderson@CSHL.ORG (John Anderson) writes:
-
- >>Could someone please explain this statement? How does presynaptic
- >>depolarization reduce the presynaptic spike amplitude? Seems like it
- >>should enhance it.
- >>
- >
- >PAD (primary afferent depolarization) isn't all that mysterious.
- >Why would expect depolarization to ENHANCE transmitter release?
- >Assuming that the axonal spike completely invades all the terminals,
- >(probably a reasonable assumption for most systems Eva was
- >referring to), then depolarization would DECREASE syanptic release
- >simply because the membrane potential of the presynaptic terminal
- >would be closer to V which is going to be somewhere above +100 mv.
- > Ca
- >That means the electrical force driving Ca inward would be reduced
- >so that calcium entry during the terminal spike would be reduced.
- >Since transmitter release is dependent on entry of external Ca,
- >less transmitter release would occur.
- >
-
- I don't agree. The driving force on Ca++ is determined by the
- voltage *during* the spike when the voltage-sensitive Ca channels
- are opened. Besides, the driving force on Ca++ is so large that
- a few millivolts depolarization from rest wouldn't make much
- difference.
-
-
- >If you get enough PAD so that the terminal membrane is really
- >depolarized, then additional factors could come into to play
- >such as channel inactivation.
-
- This is probably more important--inactivation can occur
- near resting membrane potential.
-
- >
- >
- >--
- >David M. Senseman, Ph.D. | Imagine the Creator as a low
- >(senseman@lonestar.utsa.edu) | comedian, and at once the world
- >Center for Information Visualization | becomes explicable.
- >University of Texas at San Antonio | H.L. Mencken
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