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- From: adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt)
- Subject: Re: CalTrain Article
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.195445.21498@ntmtv>
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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:54:45 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.020055.2939@s1.gov>, lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
- |> In article <C1DHDH.7xn@news.fai.com> vaughnw@hadar.fai.com (Vaughn Wolffe) writes:
- |> I'm not sure that CalTrain's staff is good at this kind of
- |> promotion. The most they seem capable of is special trains to the Bay
- |> Meadows racetrack and the Stanford U stadium, though I'd be happy to
- |> see counterexamples.
-
- I agree. CalTrain has lousy to non-existant promotion.
-
-
- |> But BART _does_ perform very efficiently, it must be conceded.
-
- Efficient performance means getting a lot for a little. It means
- delivering a lot of performance with minimum resources. Just because
- BART runs frequently and works pretty well, doesn't mean it's an
- efficient operation. I don't feel qualified to say whether BART is
- "efficient" or not, but I my impression is that there is a lot of
- room for improvement. That's based on the steady stream of articles
- in the papers over the years about internal BART problems of all
- kinds.
-
- I also don't think that BART is very efficient to extend. The
- SFO and more threoretical extensions down the peninsula and from
- Fremont to San Jose seem to have price tags on the order of $150
- million/mile or more. That's not so efficient-sounding when compared
- to the cost of installing a standard transit rail service running
- on standard railroad tracks with overhead electrification.
-
- |> So much so that some CalTrain supporters use BART as some kind of
- |> model of service ("We'll get BART performance at half the BART
- |> cost!!").
-
- Because some transit advocates would like to see BART-like performance
- on the Peninsula, that doesn't mean (or say) anything about its
- *efficiency*. They are really quite different statistics. So how
- is BART efficiency? How do *you* meaure it? It might be good, it
- might be bad, but most people like it's performance.
-
- Now, if we can get BART performance for half the cost, then that
- would be efficient use of limited transit capital, wouldn't it?
-
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