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- From: Dan Pike <dpike@oavax.csuchico.edu>
- Newsgroups: alt.personals
- Subject: Re: Gays in the Military
- Date: 28 Jan 1993 03:11:48 GMT
- Organization: California State University, Chico
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- In article <C1JJrA.838@news.cso.uiuc.edu> RedSwordTarga,
- dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
- >> The military is an
- >>institution of camaraderie. I think you would somewhat lose this
- >>camaraderie if you acknowledged homosexuals in the military.
- >
- >No, not really. After all, how long have people of color been allowed
- >to be in the military? Quite a while, and race relations still suck
- >month old eggs through a garden hose. Camaraderie doesn't mean you
- >have to kiss everyone else or even like everyone else, it just means
- >you have to work with them.
-
- But in the military, you don't just have to work with them, you have to
- live with them. If homosexuals were "allowed" in the military, I think
- fraternization laws would have to be passed. Heterosexuals have the
- right to not be harassed by unwanted flirtation or sexual advances either
- at work, or in the barracks. Right now, men and women have the right to
- be free from sexual harassment from the opposite gender. Harassment due
- to gender would also need to be extended to sexual preference. This
- would also be a lot easier to control in the workplace than it would be
- in the barracks.
- >
- >> Working
- >>with a homosexual is one thing. Living with one is something
- different.
- >>Having been in the Army, I would say the only way to allow gays in the
- >>military would be to provide separate housing, which would be kind-of
- >>hard to do in a time of war.
- >
- >Oh, get real. "Allow gays in the military"? Hell, they are there already
- >and everyone knows it. All that allowing homosexuals in the military
- would
-
- I was using allow in a formal sense. Right now, homosexuals aren't
- formally allowed in the military.
-
- >do is legitimize what's already going on. You've probably lived with
- >more homosexuals than you have any idea about.
-
- I'm sure that I have lived with more homosexuals than I have any idea
- about, but I was never approached by one. But then it wasn't legal for
- them to do so. I don't think that the laws are written now to keep
- homosexuals out of the military, I think they are written to keep public
- displays of it out of the work place and out of the living quarters.
- That's all I care about.
-