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- From: stacey@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Stacey B. Martin)
- Subject: Re: Critical Thought
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- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:55:09 GMT
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- In article <C1HEJy.3AK@athena.cs.uga.edu>, you wrote:
- >
- > > (I wrote)
- > > I also very much liked your statement about Catholicism
- > > keeping us from God. OH, YES. Campbell says that all Western religious
- > > traditions, including Judaism, are religions of exile - separating man
- > > from God.
- >
- > Campbell says this because he does not believe in a personal create present to
- > the world yet distince from it. So, of course Western religions keep people
- > from God.
-
- Uh, I don't know what got left out of this sentence, but Campbell states
- that unlike many Eastern religions, where you are invited to step
- across the Threshold, Western religions emphasize expulsion (as from
- Paradise), the unaccessability of God, and separateness (you as a
- believer are not encouraged to oneness, unless, of course, it's by
- their rules, and the spiritual/mystical NEVER plays by any rules).
-
- If you look at the problem, for instance, that the
- Catholic Church has ALWAYS had with their mystics (John of the
- Cross, Theresa of Avila, and Galileo :-), etc.), then you realize
- the truth of JC's statement.
-
- > His God is himself when it comes down to it. What he really
- > believes is a type of Hinduism, that all things are really the same
- > manifestation of the one reality which is beyond all logic, personality, and
- > rationality.
-
- Uh, does this mean that the belief you say JC has is beyond all logic,
- etc.,
- or that the one reality is beyond all logic, etc.?
-
- JC said once he never believed in a personal God. Unless
- he told you otherwise, I'd say he hid his beliefs pretty well. Except
- how he felt about Catholicism. :-) He was another renegade.
-
- Many great mystics of
- Judaism and Catholicism have taken a point of view much closer to the
- Eastern rather than Western tradition.
-
- > If you read Paul in Romans 1 you will see how he disagrees with Campbell in a
- > basic way.
-
- I don't read Paul if I can help it. As far as I'm concerned, Paul had
- some huge personal problems. Not to mention the fact that I find it
- incredibly humorous that people quote Paul as if HE were the Christ,
- instead of Jesus.
-
- > Ted
-
- Stacey
-