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- From: man@labrea.zko.dec.com (Richard Man)
- Subject: Re: Chinese Religion
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.165943.12379@e2big.mko.dec.com>
- Keywords: Lao Tzu, Chuang Tzu, Confucius
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- Reply-To: man@labrea.zko.dec.com (Richard Man)
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- References: <1993Jan22.155119.29920@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> <1993Jan22.220740.18473@csus.edu> <1993Jan25.171718.27937@e2big.mko.dec.com> <1993Jan26.031411.20815@csus.edu>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:59:43 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.031411.20815@csus.edu>, altheimm@nextnet.csus.edu (Murray Altheim) writes:
- > Please note also my reply to Corun in a previous post. As I stated, my
- > opinion of Hoff's books is that they are not particularly scholarly, nor do
- > I think Hoff intends them as such. If they provide a philosophy you like,
- > then by all means read, enjoy and follow. They are not bad books, full of
- > problems. I enjoyed The Tao of Pooh. Just didn't care for the preachiness
- > of The Te of Piglet, nor did I think Hoff understood the concept of Te the
- > way a Chinese might.
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- I AM Chinese, born and raised in Hong Kong. "Te" is a difficult concept to
- grasp, and the nowaday meaning of "virtue" has more Confuician influence
- than I like. As I have commented to my wife (who is a Pagan) many times, it is
- amazing how much cultural conditioning I got when I was growing up - I read
- children stories / fables that are Taoist in origin. To me, the concept of
- Tao is natural, but I think it would be more difficult for me if I haven't
- grown up immersed in it.
-
- The problem I have with scholarly text on Taoism (of which I have plenty, in
- English and Chinese) is that they are dry and not accessible to common people.
- Come now, how many people think, "Oh Taoism, it's about yin-yang right?" Taoism
- is about life and nature, it should be enjoyable to learn / read.
-
- > As to scholarly texts, if you are interested in what Taoism IS, I don't
- > think you'll ever find an answer. But if you are interested in the state-
- > of-the-art of our knowledge of historical philosophical and religious
- > Taoist belief and practice, then don't go to a pop book, go to a recognized
- > scholar. It may not fit into what you believe is Taoism, but then you have
- > the choice of inventing your own beliefs or following the masters. There is
- > no judgement or right or wrong about this. It simply means that if you are
- > interested in accuracy, then read an accurate source, if not, then read
- > Hoff or Stephen Mitchell. No sixteen ton weight will fall on your head.
- >
- > Of course, you might get hit with a load of foam rubber bricks... :-)
-
- The best teacher in Taoism is around you, not some recluses in the High
- Mountains (or have you forgotten Chuang-Tzu ;-) ). If only Chuang-Tzu has
- taken his own advice, I'd like him even better ;-).
-
- --
- - Richard F. Man (man@labrea.zko.dec.com)
- "Small Rovers, Big Dreams"
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