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- From: mongoose@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Conrad Leviston)
- Subject: Re: Green pentagonal pentacles? (was Re: wearing pagan/pentacle jewelry)
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- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:13:15 GMT
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- Jeffrey Robert Morton (mortoj@marcus.its.rpi.edu) wrote:
-
- : Originally used for inscriptions on pillar stones or wands, it will be easier
- : for me to explain it as if it were tilted 90 degrees.
-
- It has been suggested that oghams were originally hand signals. I
- tend to agree with this for reasons I will later detail.
-
- : The letters, when written on paper, are written as straight or angled lines
- : going over a central line (much as we stay between two lines, they stayed on
- : one line)
- : First the vowels. These are written as lines that extend each way, though they
- : were originally written as dots. i.e.
- : a o u e i
- : I II III IIII IIIII
- : -----------------------------------------------
- : I II III IIII IIIII
-
- : There is then a set of five consonants (starting with b), with the same type
- : of progression;
- : b
-
- : -------------
- : I
-
- : Then another set of consonants (starting with H)
- : h
- : I
- : --------------
-
-
- : There is then a set of five consonants with a progression of diagonal lines;
- : m g ng st R
- : / // /// //// /////
- : ------------------------------------------
- : / // /// //// /////
-
- : Finally, there is a set of very odd letters, some of which I cannot produce
- : with ascii. (but I'll try)
- : (I have to double the size of some of these letters for them to be made properly
- : p oi ui io ae
- : \ / /\ \\ //
- : \ / / \ \\ //
- : ----------------------------------------------------------
- : / \ \ / / // \\ -|-|-|-|-
- : / \ \/ (_) // \\ -|-|-|-|-
- : -|-|-|-|-
- : -|-|-|-|-
-
- The 'ae' symbol here is a group of four by four. Three by three
- would be easier to write down, but more difficult to display using
- fingers. The hand gesture theory also explains why the oghams are put into
- groups of five (although I'll admit that this evidence is by no means
- entirely convincing).
- For a more detailed (and probably coherent) argument for the hand
- signals theory, see R.S. MacAllister, 'Secret languages of ancient
- Ireland'.
-
- : Well, some of these are not the best representations, but they'll do. You may
- : notice some discrepancy between the letters as written here and as you know
- : them (if you know ogam). Books are not always accurate, and I have only looked
- : at several.
-
- I though these were quite decent representations. |-)
-
- : Jeff
-
- : --
- : -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- : "For every darkness there is a light, for every dusk, a dawn."
- : --uncertain
- : -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- --
- Conrad Leviston | Got to find a brightness in the soul,
- mongoose@yoyo. | Not look outside to find out where we are,
- cc.monash.edu.au | Otherwise you won't be satisfied,
- Save the gherkin | 'Til you've made possession of the stars. (K.Wallinger)
-