home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Newsgroups: alt.messianic
- Path: sparky!uunet!charon.amdahl.com!amdahl!rtech!decwrl!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news.netmbx.de!Germany.EU.net!mcsun!news.funet.fi!polaris!ljmorly
- From: ljmorly@polaris.utu.fi (Laura Johanna Manninen)
- Subject: Re: Rashi's quote (was Re: Almah - Betulah)
- In-Reply-To: jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu's message of 25 Jan 1993 19:37:24 GMT
- Message-ID: <LJMORLY.93Jan28102522@polaris.utu.fi>
- Sender: ljmorly@polaris.utu.fi (Laura Johanna Manninen)
- Organization: University of Turku
- References: <KRULWICH.93Jan19160058@zowie.ils.nwu.edu>
- <LJMORLY.93Jan21113710@polaris.utu.fi>
- <KRULWICH.93Jan25112343@zowie.ils.nwu.edu>
- <1k1fhkINNppq@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:25:22 GMT
- Lines: 37
-
- In article <1k1fhkINNppq@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love) writes:
- > In article <KRULWICH.93Jan25112343@zowie.ils.nwu.edu> krulwich@zowie.ils.nwu.edu (Bruce Krulwich) writes:
- > >veyesh potrin and there are those who interpret
- > > [the "sign" that is mentioned in Is.]
- > >she'zeh ha'os that this is the sign
- > > ["os" is the Ashkenazic pronounciation]
- > >she'alma hi'sa that she was an "alma"
- > >v'eina re'uya li'valed and was not capable of giving birth
-
- [...]
-
- > But, in context, "livaled" is clearly pi'el and means "to
- > give birth." Because transliteration is a difficult art, I would
- > suggest that vocalizing "sheva" should be rendered by the "'"
- > sign: l'valed.
-
- That's according to which I transliterated it in the first place.
- (Just used 'e' for shva.) Nice to see at last some sensible stuff
- from you. (-:
-
- And BTW, how would you (or anyone else) translate 'almah' in the
- above translation by Dov ? (Remember, Rashi is using it as an
- ordinary word and not giving an interpretation for 'almah' which
- he has done already.)
-
- > ________________________________________
- > Jack F. Love | Opinions expressed are mine alone.
- > | (Unless you happen to agree.)
-
- - Laura
- --
- "Who has gone up to heaven and come down ?
- Who has gathered up the wind in the hollow of his hands ?
- Who has wrapped up the waters in his cloak ?
- Who has established all the ends of the earth ?
- What is his name, and the name of his son ?
- Tell me if you know !" - Mishlei 30:4
-