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- From: jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love)
- Newsgroups: alt.messianic
- Subject: Re: Almah and the controversy
- Date: 27 Jan 1993 15:04:19 GMT
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- In article <142118.2B65EEEB@paranet.FIDONET.ORG> Harvey.Smith@p0.f1.n7002.z8.FIDONET.ORG (Harvey Smith) writes:
- >1) Almah does not mean "virgin" but young maiden.
-
- No. I speak 20th century American English. I have never heard
- the word "maiden" used in common parlance except as part of the
- term "iron maiden." Almah means "young *woman*". This is not
- an opinion. See the dozen or so references I have already
- posted on this subject. On the use of the word "maid" or
- "maiden" see especially the citation of Otto Kaiser in my almah
- posting part 4.
-
- >2) If God had wanted to say virgin, He would have used "betullah"
-
- This is an over-simplification. If God had wanted to proclaim
- a sign by miraculous birth, she would have made it abundantly
- clear so that even a simpleton such as myself could understand
- it.
-
- >3) The context of Isa 7:14 has nothing to do with the messiah.
-
- Since I am clearly in the crowd of "opponents" you identify, I
- would say that I personally don't believe Isaiah 7:14 has
- anything to do with messianic prophesy within the context of
- Isaiah's own time (8th century BCE). However, since the text
- is fairly obscure and since we may no longer have its full
- context, I wouldn't be willing to utterly rule out the possibility.
- From my reading of major *Christian* commentators, however, many
- of them do.
-
- >Now if i am wrong with the above, please correct me.
-
- Done.
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