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- From: hem@col400.att.com (Hillel E. Markowitz)
- Subject: Re: Complete verification of Jesus
- In-Reply-To: eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu's message of 25 Jan 93 18:32:40
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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:29:40 GMT
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- On 25 Jan 93 18:32:40, eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) said:
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- > In article <1993Jan25.172205.13550@udel.edu> carroll@bifur.cis.udel.edu (Mark C. Carroll) writes:
- >> (Can someone help me find the citation, I believe from Rambam, that it
- >> is better to perform Mitzvot without belief, than to have belief but
- >> not perform the Mitzvot?)
-
- > I've heard this before too, and think that it is a fundamental
- > theological mistake. With this tenet, religion is reduced to a
- > practice, learnable by machine, requiring only outward action and not
- > inward understanding. Even worse, religion can be forced on a person,
- > resulting in outward practice but inward resentment. Without belief,
- > any reason for practice depends on outward pressure (peer acceptance)
- > alone. It makes for a barren religion.
- > --
- > =Jim eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
-
- I have seen the quotation mentioned but I don't remember the citation
- either. It may actually be a medrash. However, as I recall, there is a
- following sentence which changes the meaning. This is a paraphrase from
- memory though.
-
- Because, through performing the mitzvos they will come to belief.
-
- Thus (me speaking again) someone who has belief but doesn't perform the
- mitzvos will come to lose the belief as well.
-
- There is also the phrase "Mitoch shelo lishma bo lishma" from [doing a
- mitzva] for ulterior motives [not for its own sake] one comes to [do a
- mitzva] for its own sake.
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