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- From: carroll@bifur.cis.udel.edu (Mark C. Carroll)
- Subject: Re: Complete verification of Jesus
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- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:22:05 GMT
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- In article <1k0r70INNj01@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> jtauber@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (James Tauber) writes:
- ]Mark C. Carroll (carroll@bifur.cis.udel.edu) wrote:
- ]:
- ]: 1] Jews don't believe in human sacrifice. That's the lesson of the binding
- ]: of Yitzhak.
- ]:
- ]There is no indication of that in Torah. The lesson of the binding of Yitzhak
- ]is that Avraham had faith to believe that HaShem would resurrect Yitzhak.
- ]
-
- There is no indication of THAT in the Torah. For citations of the
- Jewish interpetation, I'd recommend taking a look at the Soncino
- Chumash. (I don't have a copy with me in the Office; I'm relatively
- sure that I'm mentioning the correct publisher for the one my
- synagogue has always used, but I tend to confuse this.)
-
- ]Such faith was enough to be credited to Avraham as righteousness. So the
- ]lesson for us:
- ] Righteousness can come apart from Torah by faith in a resurrection.
-
- No Jew would *ever* say that. Tzedakah comes from following Mitzvot,
- and from doing the right thing. Not from blind faith, without action.
- (Can someone help me find the citation, I believe from Rambam, that it
- is better to perform Mitzvot without belief, than to have belief but
- not perform the Mitzvot?)
-
- ]While we're on the subject, why does Moshe say `it is said to this day, "In
- ]the mount of the L-RD it *will* be provided."' if the providence is referring
- ]to the ram-substitute provided for Yitzhak?
-
- Because when the words were said, Abraham had not yet seen the Ram
- that God provided. "It will be provided", and so he looked, and it
- was.
-
- <MC>
-
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- [ Mark Craig Carroll <MC> ] You say you know no tricks, have no talents -
- [ U of Delaware, CIS Dept ] Isn't everyone supposed to have their own?
- [ Grad Student/Lab Hacker ] Yes, but few are obvious. Few draw notice to those
- [ carroll@udel.edu ] who posess them, like flags waving themselves.
-