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- From: ucakrvb@ucl.ac.uk (Vijay Bhuchar)
- Newsgroups: alt.messianic
- Subject: Re: Complete verification of Jesus
- Message-ID: <1993Jan21.174722.17913@ucl.ac.uk>
- Date: 21 Jan 93 17:47:22 GMT
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- In article <1jh9goINNgvm@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> friedenb@silver.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg) writes:
- >when moshiach does come, he will get things done right the first
- >time around. After that, he can come back as many times as he wants
- >and join in the post-moshiach utopia.
- >
-
-
- It really depends on your interpretation of getting it right
- first time. The Jews of Jesus' day believed that Messiah would
- lead them to victory over the Romans so he failed.
-
- The Jews of today believe that Messiah has to rebuild the Temple
- and so on so again Jesus failed. But if you believe SCRIPTURE
- (and I do) then Messiah has to do the following:
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- Offer himself as a sacrifice for sin (Isaiah 53)
- Be crucified (Psalm 22)
- Be cut off 69 x 7 years after the decree of Nehemiah (Dan 9, Neh1 & 2)
-
- then he succeeded.
-
-
- If all the Jews had believed in Jesus then they would have a pretty hard
- time convincing the rest of the world that their prophecies were genuine,
- but the fact that the Jews dont believe is great.
-
- Example: A friend said to me "How do you know that the Old Testament
- prophecies were written down at least 400 years before the event?"
-
- My reply "Ask a Jew" (i.e. if they werenot then Judaism would be a
- ponitless religion started by Christians)
-
- To end off: The fact that Jesus didnot fulfil all the Scriptures is
- crucial in witnessing. I have often said to people:
-
- "Jesus fulfilled all the prophecies of his first coming. The prophecies
- of his second coming talk about the unbelievers being judged as
- unrighteous and thrown into Hell.... Are you willing to take the risk
- that he WONT fulfil them?"
-
- Chilling! But it seems to have an effect.
-
- Vijay (ucakrvb@uk.ac.ucl)
-