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- Subject: Re: Is hidden hypnosis possible?
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- Date: 27 Jan 93 18:18:57 GMT
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- In article <DLB.93Jan26102730@fanny.wash.inmet.com>, dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com (David Barton) writes:
- > I missed the original article in this thread. I must therefore
- > respond to a partial quote.
- >
- > In article <1k0gfkINNfbs@rs2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>,
- > raab@vlsi.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Andreas Raab) writes:
- > |> Is it possible to induce a hypnotic state in a person such that the
- > |> person doesn't realize what happens?
- >
- > [ stuff deleted ]
- >
- > |> Well, can it be that A hypnotized B? I know that eye contact over
- > |> extended periods of time can induce trace, but what then? There
- > |> was a lot of body language involved, and A used his voice very
- > |> much. It reminded me at the wizard Saruman a character from "The
- > |> Lord of the Rings" who bewitched people with his voice.
- > |> m really interested in the subject, it's fasconating to watch
- > |> people interact. This "hidden hypnosis" technique seems to be
- > |> used very frequent, especially in advertising, in particular in
- > |> TV.
- > |> Andreas
- >
- > Covert hypnotic inductions are certainly possible. Erickson has
- > published many examples, as have many others. Erickson even
- > recommends it in the case where a given client is clearly ambivalent,
- > and the ambivalence results in considerable resistance.
- >
- > Not having seen the original article, I cannot comment on whether a
- > trance was induced in this particular case. Hypnosis is not an
- > "either-or" thing; being hypnotized is not a binary variable. The
- > answer to your question is probably, "To an extent".
- >
- > Dave Barton
- > dlb@hudson.wash.inmet.com
-
-
- It depends on how 'A' obtained the information from 'B':
-
- 1. 'A' may have used a method of indirect questioning, clever, but
- not hypnosis.
- 2. 'A' may have applied 'B' with acceptable suggestions causing 'B'
- to divulge the necessary info'. No trance induction, but is sometimes
- called 'waking hypnosis' - a la Bernheim and Coue.
- 3. 'A' could have induced trance in 'B' thus increasing suggestibility of 'B'.
- However, 'A' would still have to be careful in how he extracted the
- information from 'B'. The hypnosis part, ie trance induction, may
- include a few factors:-
- - Monotony/soothing/authoritarian tinge in voice of 'A'
- - 'A's use of confusing/contradictory/wearing statements almost
- bullying 'B' into trance. This is a classic method of hypnotic induction,
- not very pleasant or ethical though
- - Rapport/trust 'B' to 'A' (applies to 2. as well)
- - Eye contact/fascination/attention of 'B' to 'A' (applies to 2. as well)
- - 'A' envoking emotion in 'B' whilst applying the suggestions (applies to
- 2. as well)
-
- I don't think post hypnotic amnesia would apply here, no trance deepening
- present.
-
- .................... A scottish perspective.
-
- .................... Just a few comments from your friendly I.A.H. member.
-