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- From: dallagata@udphvx.cineca.it
- Newsgroups: alt.flame
- Subject: Re: Intellectuals & women
- Date: 24 Jan 93 06:12:11 +0000
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- Message-ID: <1993Jan24.061211.1@udphvx.cineca.it>
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- In article <1993Jan24.091306.12344@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, jbl3g@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jason Basinger Linkins) writes:
- > In article <1993Jan24.014919.1@udphvx.cineca.it> dallagata@udphvx.cineca.it writes:
-
- [lames full of hatre deleted]
- >
- > No. Because at least during my lifetime I get to humiliate asinine wankstains
- > like yourself.
-
- Humiliate? MOI? Pfffff! You are humiliating yourself, idiot.
- You are not able to deal with alt.flame. All of this started
- because *YOU* told me that I hate women, for a macho style
- drivel that I've put on the net.
-
- There is a game, here, loser. There are no rules. We are not
- in alt.feminist. The 90% of the times the people just write
- bullshit. That's what I did, but you pretended to get me
- real *USING THE DRIVELS THAT I'VE PUT ON THE NET*!
-
- You started to tell me that I really hated woman for what I
- wrote. Bullshit. I know the women better than what you can
- think, I respect women more than what you can think, just
- because I am not really sexist, how you pretend to show.
-
- Yes, I like to flirt with them, I like to tease them with
- the macho style. And many of them like it. And they are not
- stupid for that, they are just human beings, moron.
-
- It is you that are not able to realize that on this world
- there are not only your intellectual friends, as cold as you
- that masturbate their mind thinking " How Gosh, how much I
- am intellectual, how Gosh, how much I am cool, how Gosh, how
- much I am deep and romantic". Yes, so much romantic that
- there is not space on your hearth for one sweet experience,
- as the childbirth.
-
- Yes, but you are an actor, you pretend to show, telling this
- to us, that you have strong feelings, that you are an artist.
- Puah! You live on your world man, you have been throwing
- shit over the concept of childbirts. I felt this, and I can
- simply admit that I do not like that.
-
- I never said that we have to enforce women, I belive that
- they don't need to be enforced if they have the opportunity
- to decide what they prefer, and not what they have to do.
-
- And anyway, speaking about a couple where the woman doesn't
- want to have children while the man would like it. What the
- man has to do in such a situation?!? Doesn't have the man
- the right to try to convince her, without to enforce her?
-
- What is a decision? Everyone can change their decisions, on
- life. And we do. The important thing is that we (man and
- women) decide what *we* think is the right thing.
-
- Many time we make the wrong decision because we did not
- consider all the aspect of the problem. There is nothing
- worse than to understand that we made the wrong decision
- when it is *TOO LATE*.
-
- Try to think to wake up one day, and to understad that you
- mist something, a child. And then you realize that it is too
- late. How can you feel? Do you belive that simply thinking
- about the nice life that you had, you can forget such a
- thing? You are an actor, I hope that you understand what I
- am talking about.
-
- I belive, (I can't proove it, but I still belive it) that
- there are no feelings stronger than the wish to have a child
- with the woman that you love. I *felt* it, ones. I am a man,
- but I never felt something so strong. I can't imagine what a
- woman can feel (they are supposed to have stronger feelings
- than us, about that). I understood how much cold I have been
- before that. I did not *decide* anything, I was just feeling
- in this way. But this feeling was strong for me because I
- understood, in that moment, how important, how powerful
- could be my relationship, my life. More than all the science
- or everything else. I understood that I did not wish it
- before, just because I could not have any child, I had to
- study, I had money problems, I did not have time, I had to
- think about my future. After that, I understood that was
- only bullshit, that nothing compare (on my hearth) to the
- happyness that you can feel when you make love with ypur
- woman and you can think that maybe, a new life was going to
- start. I was not only fucking, I was doing something more
- serious. And the same was true for her. We just felt to be
- humans, to be part of the Universe. You are right when you
- says that we don't have to enforce them, what I really think
- is that everybody have to have the opportunity to discover it.
- I know, there are always many problems anyway, but I think
- that childbirths are a value, not a must. Something that
- people is going to forget in this plastic society.
-
- I hope only that you will not use this to flame.
-
- Michele
-