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- From: bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: Strong atheism ought to explain theism (Was: Re: Atheism is dogmatic.
- Message-ID: <11233@vice.ICO.TEK.COM>
- Date: 29 Jan 93 00:01:04 GMT
- References: <77654@apple.apple.COM> <11219@vice.ICO.TEK.COM> <sandvik-270193174002@17.201.32.75>
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- In article <sandvik-270193174002@17.201.32.75> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
- >In article <11219@vice.ICO.TEK.COM>, bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert
- >Beauchaine) wrote:
- >> I want an example of an encounter with god that was in every
- >> detail as real to you as sitting at your terminal typing a reply
- >> to my post. Ideally, all of the senses would be involved. If
- >> not, something akin to a conversation with another person will do,
- >> where you hear actual words, and see a complete solid body.
- >>
- >> I want to hear of something so real to you that you could not tell
- >> it apart from the routine of your daily life.
- >
- >Descartes used the famous whispering deamon to measure this tricky
- >situation. Actually we might add even scientic issues dealing with
- >brain stimulation and chemistry. Anyone who's been drunk know what
- >I'm hinting at. Reality is what you create around yourself.
-
- Well, my experience doesn't go beyond alcohol and other very mild
- mind altering substances, but even in those states I don't ever
- remember having any doubt that I was indeed intoxicated. I have
- never had any difficulty differentiating everyday experience from
- any of the altered states I have managed to put my mind in.
- Perhaps you mileage varies. I'd be interested in pursuing this
- topic.
-
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- Bob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM
-
- "Look, I tried the cat experiment. On the third trial, the cat was
- dead. On each of the subsequent 413 trials, it remained dead. Am I
- doing something wrong?"
- James Nicoll
-
- Q. How many Heisenbergs does it take to screw in a light bulb?
- A. If you know the number, you don't know where the light bulb is!
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