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- Subject: Re: Was Jesus the Anti-Christ?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan28.093926.6526@nmsu.edu>
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- References: <1993Jan26.171908.7582@bradford.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:39:26 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.171908.7582@bradford.ac.uk> L.Newnham@bradford.ac.uk
- (Leonard Newnham) writes:
- > William Twentyman (cscope@camelot.bradley.edu) writes:
- > >
- > > Matthew 12:22-28
- >
- > > Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and
- mute,
- > > and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. All the
- > > people were astonished and said, "Could this be the Son of David?"
- > > But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, "It is only by
- > > Beelzebub, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out
- demons."
- > > Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, "Every kingdom divided
- > > against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided
- > > against itself will not stand. If Satan drives out Satan, he is
- divided
- > > against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? And if I drive
- out
- > > demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your people drive them out? So
- then,
- > > they will be your judges. But if I drive out demons by the Spirit
- of
- > > God, then the kingdom of God has come to you.
- >
- > > This passage poses two possibilities, either Jesus was an agent of
- God, or
- > > Satan. Jesus's quote clearly implies that he is an agent of God, but
- what
- > > if the reverse were true? If Jesus were an agent of Satan, he could
- simply
- > > appear to be divided against evil. This would result in people
- believing
- > > he was an agent of God and actually draw people away from God. If
- Satan
- > > were more interested in gathering souls than in leaving a few demons
- around
- > > to torment people, he would be making an enormous profit.
- >
- > > This has been one of my biggest problems with Christianity, the
- possibility
- > > that it was a ploy by Satan to draw people away from God. Can anyone
- see
- > > any flaws in my logic? Anything I may have missed?
- >
- > Yes. It's clearly a lot of nonsense written by superstitious people
- > in a superstitious age. Take any blind mute man to a medical doctor
- > and ask him the cause. Few would take seriously any suggestion of
- > demonic possession. Take out the mumbo-jumbo from this story and
- > there is not much left. Get a grip, this is the twentieth century!
-
- Everything is so clear to you, Leonard, even without thinking! I
- need to send you my thesis questions someday so you can save me the
- trouble of actually doing any research on them! (Or maybe you'll just
- tell me "take this problem to any evolutionary biologist and ask them the
- cause"). :-)
- If yours was a serious question, William, I think I might have an
- answer, or at least, something more to think about. If Jesus' teachings
- were meant to deceive, especially all the stuff about "I am God", there
- should be some element of deception in at least some of the rest of his
- teachings, too. The sermon on the mount should contain something. Let us
- know what you find.
- Erik Powers
-
- >
- > BTW How many angels can dance on the end of a pin?
-
- BTW, you would soon die without the myriads of microorganisms
- covering both your insides and outsides. So tell me, are you really a
- single organism? Or how many microbes does it take to make a bunny?
-
- >
- >
- > --
- >
- > Leonard e-mail: L.Newnham@bradford.ac.uk
-