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- From: dmcanzi@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: Easter whodunnit
- Message-ID: <C1HytF.Gvw@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 05:20:02 GMT
- References: <C1AGwv.I3B@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> <1993Jan25.234441.4761@nmsu.edu>
- Organization: University of Waterloo
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- In article <1993Jan25.234441.4761@nmsu.edu> epowers@mccoy (POWERS) writes:
- >In article <C1AGwv.I3B@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
- >dmcanzi@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi) writes:
- >> What's the point of trying to account for the empty tomb? If some
- >> people (such as myself) don't believe the Bible when it tells us that a
- >> man rose from the dead, why would we be any more inclined to believe it
- >> when it tells us that his body disappeared from its tomb?
- >
- > Here you have an interesting point. I'm curious, would you deny
- >equally the validity of all statements made in the Bible? Archaeologists
- >don't. If not, how do you distinguish between a true statement and an
- >untrue one?
-
- The word "validity" has multiple meanings, I can't tell which one you
- intend here. You mention archaeologists not denying equally the
- "validity" of statements made in the Bible, but without at least an
- example I can't tell what you're talking about. I might be able to
- give you a more meaningful response if it was clearer what you were
- actually saying.
-
- As for the last (very general) question, I can't give you a general
- answer to it. (See the philosophy section of your local library.) I
- will only mention a few things about this specific case. The claim is
- made that Jesus rose from the dead. Extraordinary claims require
- extraordinary evidence. We don't have extraordinary evidence.
-
- What you (and Josh McDowell) seem to me to be doing is backing off from
- making the extraordinary claim directly by replacing it with a set of
- other claims which imply the final extraordinary claim only after a
- logical argument. But this new set of claims you use comes from the
- same questionable source as the original claim. Perhaps some people
- will be fooled into believing the conclusion because they see it at the
- end of a logical argument, in much the same way that people can be
- fooled into believing the output of a computer program even though the
- program's input is incorrect. But "Garbage In, Garbage Out" applies to
- logical arguments just as much as to computer programs.
- --
- David Canzi
-